area of part of Archimedes's spiral
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Find the area of region inside the "first loop" of the Archimedes spiral (that is, the spiral for $0 le theta le 2pi$) and to the left of the $y$-axis.
The area the question wants is between $theta = pi/2$ and $theta = 3pi/2$ for the graph $r=theta$. Therefore, I computed the integral $int_{pi/2}^{3pi/2} theta ,dtheta = pi^2$. I even checked it with a graphing calculator to make sure that the integral was computed correctly. However, apparently, this is not a correct answer. Could someone help me see why?
calculus integration
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Find the area of region inside the "first loop" of the Archimedes spiral (that is, the spiral for $0 le theta le 2pi$) and to the left of the $y$-axis.
The area the question wants is between $theta = pi/2$ and $theta = 3pi/2$ for the graph $r=theta$. Therefore, I computed the integral $int_{pi/2}^{3pi/2} theta ,dtheta = pi^2$. I even checked it with a graphing calculator to make sure that the integral was computed correctly. However, apparently, this is not a correct answer. Could someone help me see why?
calculus integration
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Can you explain why you wrote the area as $inttheta dtheta$? Are you familiar with double integrals?
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– Shubham Johri
2 days ago
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Isn't the area element $r dr dtheta$ in polar?
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– coffeemath
2 days ago
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The integral is $int int r dtheta dr = frac{1}{2}int theta^2 dtheta$, you forgot to integrate $r$ first from zero to $theta$.
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– WarreG
2 days ago
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Find the area of region inside the "first loop" of the Archimedes spiral (that is, the spiral for $0 le theta le 2pi$) and to the left of the $y$-axis.
The area the question wants is between $theta = pi/2$ and $theta = 3pi/2$ for the graph $r=theta$. Therefore, I computed the integral $int_{pi/2}^{3pi/2} theta ,dtheta = pi^2$. I even checked it with a graphing calculator to make sure that the integral was computed correctly. However, apparently, this is not a correct answer. Could someone help me see why?
calculus integration
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Find the area of region inside the "first loop" of the Archimedes spiral (that is, the spiral for $0 le theta le 2pi$) and to the left of the $y$-axis.
The area the question wants is between $theta = pi/2$ and $theta = 3pi/2$ for the graph $r=theta$. Therefore, I computed the integral $int_{pi/2}^{3pi/2} theta ,dtheta = pi^2$. I even checked it with a graphing calculator to make sure that the integral was computed correctly. However, apparently, this is not a correct answer. Could someone help me see why?
calculus integration
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Can you explain why you wrote the area as $inttheta dtheta$? Are you familiar with double integrals?
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– Shubham Johri
2 days ago
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Isn't the area element $r dr dtheta$ in polar?
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– coffeemath
2 days ago
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The integral is $int int r dtheta dr = frac{1}{2}int theta^2 dtheta$, you forgot to integrate $r$ first from zero to $theta$.
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– WarreG
2 days ago
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Can you explain why you wrote the area as $inttheta dtheta$? Are you familiar with double integrals?
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– Shubham Johri
2 days ago
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Isn't the area element $r dr dtheta$ in polar?
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– coffeemath
2 days ago
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The integral is $int int r dtheta dr = frac{1}{2}int theta^2 dtheta$, you forgot to integrate $r$ first from zero to $theta$.
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– WarreG
2 days ago
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Can you explain why you wrote the area as $inttheta dtheta$? Are you familiar with double integrals?
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– Shubham Johri
2 days ago
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Can you explain why you wrote the area as $inttheta dtheta$? Are you familiar with double integrals?
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– Shubham Johri
2 days ago
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Isn't the area element $r dr dtheta$ in polar?
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– coffeemath
2 days ago
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Isn't the area element $r dr dtheta$ in polar?
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– coffeemath
2 days ago
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The integral is $int int r dtheta dr = frac{1}{2}int theta^2 dtheta$, you forgot to integrate $r$ first from zero to $theta$.
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– WarreG
2 days ago
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The integral is $int int r dtheta dr = frac{1}{2}int theta^2 dtheta$, you forgot to integrate $r$ first from zero to $theta$.
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Recall that the area element in polar coordinates is given by $r dr dtheta$. For any value of $theta,r$ ranges from $0totheta$. Further, $theta$ ranges from $pi/2to3pi/2$.
The answer is $$int_{pi/2}^{3pi/2}int_0^theta r dr dtheta=frac{13pi^3}{24}$$
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The integral for finding the area in polar coordinate is different from what you have.
Please use the correct formula and you will get the correct answer.
$$ A = (1/2) int r^2 dtheta $$ where in your case $ r=theta $
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An extra $pi$ there
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– Shubham Johri
2 days ago
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Thanks, I fixed it, now it is correct.
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Recall that the area element in polar coordinates is given by $r dr dtheta$. For any value of $theta,r$ ranges from $0totheta$. Further, $theta$ ranges from $pi/2to3pi/2$.
The answer is $$int_{pi/2}^{3pi/2}int_0^theta r dr dtheta=frac{13pi^3}{24}$$
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Recall that the area element in polar coordinates is given by $r dr dtheta$. For any value of $theta,r$ ranges from $0totheta$. Further, $theta$ ranges from $pi/2to3pi/2$.
The answer is $$int_{pi/2}^{3pi/2}int_0^theta r dr dtheta=frac{13pi^3}{24}$$
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Recall that the area element in polar coordinates is given by $r dr dtheta$. For any value of $theta,r$ ranges from $0totheta$. Further, $theta$ ranges from $pi/2to3pi/2$.
The answer is $$int_{pi/2}^{3pi/2}int_0^theta r dr dtheta=frac{13pi^3}{24}$$
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Recall that the area element in polar coordinates is given by $r dr dtheta$. For any value of $theta,r$ ranges from $0totheta$. Further, $theta$ ranges from $pi/2to3pi/2$.
The answer is $$int_{pi/2}^{3pi/2}int_0^theta r dr dtheta=frac{13pi^3}{24}$$
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The integral for finding the area in polar coordinate is different from what you have.
Please use the correct formula and you will get the correct answer.
$$ A = (1/2) int r^2 dtheta $$ where in your case $ r=theta $
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An extra $pi$ there
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– Shubham Johri
2 days ago
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Thanks, I fixed it, now it is correct.
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2 days ago
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The integral for finding the area in polar coordinate is different from what you have.
Please use the correct formula and you will get the correct answer.
$$ A = (1/2) int r^2 dtheta $$ where in your case $ r=theta $
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An extra $pi$ there
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– Shubham Johri
2 days ago
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Thanks, I fixed it, now it is correct.
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– Mohammad Riazi-Kermani
2 days ago
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The integral for finding the area in polar coordinate is different from what you have.
Please use the correct formula and you will get the correct answer.
$$ A = (1/2) int r^2 dtheta $$ where in your case $ r=theta $
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The integral for finding the area in polar coordinate is different from what you have.
Please use the correct formula and you will get the correct answer.
$$ A = (1/2) int r^2 dtheta $$ where in your case $ r=theta $
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Can you explain why you wrote the area as $inttheta dtheta$? Are you familiar with double integrals?
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Isn't the area element $r dr dtheta$ in polar?
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The integral is $int int r dtheta dr = frac{1}{2}int theta^2 dtheta$, you forgot to integrate $r$ first from zero to $theta$.
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