Would a faux hawk (aka fohawk) haircut with a razor line across my head be unprofessional for finance job...
I'm going to a hairstylist whose hair Instagram is pretty popular -- many variations of fohawks on men, including that razor line across one side of the head.
(A fohawk is basically short on the sides and back, keep some length on top and wear it up / spikey, using blowdrying / hair brush / hair product for more volume if desired ... )
Would getting such a haircut adversely affect my chances of landing a finance / Wall Street job? Would interviewers find such a style to be unprofessional?
I'm specifically worried about the razor line extending across the side of my head.
Thanks in advance.
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I'm going to a hairstylist whose hair Instagram is pretty popular -- many variations of fohawks on men, including that razor line across one side of the head.
(A fohawk is basically short on the sides and back, keep some length on top and wear it up / spikey, using blowdrying / hair brush / hair product for more volume if desired ... )
Would getting such a haircut adversely affect my chances of landing a finance / Wall Street job? Would interviewers find such a style to be unprofessional?
I'm specifically worried about the razor line extending across the side of my head.
Thanks in advance.
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I'm going to a hairstylist whose hair Instagram is pretty popular -- many variations of fohawks on men, including that razor line across one side of the head.
(A fohawk is basically short on the sides and back, keep some length on top and wear it up / spikey, using blowdrying / hair brush / hair product for more volume if desired ... )
Would getting such a haircut adversely affect my chances of landing a finance / Wall Street job? Would interviewers find such a style to be unprofessional?
I'm specifically worried about the razor line extending across the side of my head.
Thanks in advance.
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I'm going to a hairstylist whose hair Instagram is pretty popular -- many variations of fohawks on men, including that razor line across one side of the head.
(A fohawk is basically short on the sides and back, keep some length on top and wear it up / spikey, using blowdrying / hair brush / hair product for more volume if desired ... )
Would getting such a haircut adversely affect my chances of landing a finance / Wall Street job? Would interviewers find such a style to be unprofessional?
I'm specifically worried about the razor line extending across the side of my head.
Thanks in advance.
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Yes.
Would be lovely for the fashion industry, but finance requires more conservative apparel.
You can always find a place where they'll take you in as you are, but being rejected by even one place satisfies the condition of your question. I'm just preempting comments here.
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Numbering left to right 1-9, I would say 2, 7, and particular 9 will be problematic. 3 looks pretty harmless.
– Martin Bonner
yesterday
12
Importantly, some of these can be styled in a more conservative look. The more the haircut requires the fauxhawk styling, the bigger a problem you're likely to have.
– Upper_Case
yesterday
24
Currently working in finance--you might get an interview, but would almost certainly be rejected on a 'cultural fit' reason, particularly if you're looking to get into the industry. If you've made a name for yourself you can afford to be eccentric, but certainly not when you're just walking in the door.
– Marisa
yesterday
8
@Marisa: I've met people working in sales roles in finance (investment funds and insurance, to be precise) with hairstyles pretty close to some of those pictured above. I wouldn't find e.g. #4 even particularly unusual. I'm sure some companies and clients may expect a more traditional style, and local cultural variation probably matters too, but I'd expect the real sticking point in most cases would not be the specific hairstyle per se, but whether it looks neat, clean and well groomed.
– Ilmari Karonen
yesterday
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@MartinBonner That's numberwang!
– rath
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This is the kind of move that could get you blacklisted from the entire industry, don't do it.
Yes, it would be taken that seriously.
If you were to show up like that to a financial company, you would be the talk of the town form months.
I've worked in the financial industry, and it is VERY conservative, at least in appearances. You want people to trust your company with your money. If I were to hire you looking like that, not only would you not be taken seriously by my customers, but my judgment would be called into question.
Again, this is why networking and studying an industry before trying to break into it is so important.
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Depends. What is finance? Come to me, proove your value, go home with a higher 6 digit paycheck and I do not care. TRADING - also finance - is not conservative. Anything customer facing - YES; Absolutely totally right. But there ARE niches.
– TomTom
yesterday
14
@TomTom as someone in the finance industry; I promise you someone looking like that wouldn't get hired anywhere where I've worked. You might want to think that it's just synthetic, and that you can prove your worth; but employees are a risk; and one that needs to be minimised...
– UKMonkey
yesterday
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@TomTom Like UKmonkey, I have also worked in the finance industry. There are indeed niche industries, but those are for customers, not workers. Even Johnny Rotten shows up in a suit for court.
– Richard U
yesterday
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Very location and company depending. Had a banker that looked very much like 4th guy from the other answer. Everything else looked very professional and it all fit together very well, so maybe he compensated enough or made it look professional enough with his overall style, but it is surely possible. And despite all my other banking advisors, I still somewhat remember him. So, is it harder, sure. And I would first get a job and then start to get more fancy with the hair rather than the other way around, but it's possible - in limits and if framed right.
– Darkwing
yesterday
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There is no such thing as a industry blacklist, not even a imaginary one. And while FI is conservative they also employ young job starters like everybody else. I am sure you can even find advertising material showing young and fashionable hair cuts.
– eckes
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I don't think there's a clear cut (no pun intended) answer here. It'll depend somewhat on the subset of "Finance Industry" you're interested in, and also on the role. Hairstyle is fairly permanent (in that you can't change it as quickly as you change the shirt you're wearing) so interviewers will pay attention in conservative environments. I would expect to get friction for it in those situations.
That said, in any industry, there will be more conservative, and more casual, subsections. Applying for jobs at fin tech startups vs applying for jobs at brokers with hundred-year histories, will be different situations. The startup may not care about your hair.
In addition, within a specific subset of an industry, there will often be variations based on role. If you're applying for a job as a system admin or something else very back-office, the culture may be much more casual that a job with a big public-facing element - if you're in loan sales, you may be expected to have a conservative and "professional" appearance, for example. Having a loud hairstyle would definitely be an impact there.
Speaking from personal experience, I'm currently in a back-office role at a fairly conservative financial industry employer. I had a hairstyle similar to what you're describing when I was hired - no one cared. The dress code is business casual, hairstyles are not a big deal.
Meanwhile, our company policy specifically mentions hairstyles for public facing roles (ie sales, branch staff, etc.), and although the language is somewhat vague, it's a strong enough policy that I wouldn't have kept such a hairstyle had I been applying for one of those positions.
That leaves the question: how do you distill this into an answer that's meaningful for you?
Back office vs front office is a pretty clear distinction. Les vs more conservative for a specific employer is a little less clear - a good way to answer that is involving third party recruiters who know your target employers well, or at least the local finance industry well.
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I agree with the general mood reflected in the above answers, but would like to add more based on my experience with a fintech company.
Financial industry as a whole has been going through drastic changes for more than a decade, driven primarily by two forces
Financial crisis which destroyed hundreds of billions of dollars led
to some old school companies such as UBS, DB etc. losing their clout.Fintech companies which have emerged during last few years also belong to
"finance industry", but they usually have an entirely different work
culture when compared to old school finance corporations. First
major global fintech company was probably Paypal which was cofounded
by Elon Musk. Companies such as Paypal could tolerate funky haircuts
which you mention.
But, then it all depends on a) which type of finance company you are going for b) which type of job you are applying for c) local culture, based on your location
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As this would be a customer facing role dealing with business-to-business cliental in a conservative industry I would recommend a conservative appearance.
I see reasoning for this on two fronts. A hiring manager for a role of this nature would likely be conservative themselves. People will look for others that share their own qualities. If they see a conservative attitude as one of their positive qualities you are actively distancing yourself from this. You'd hope most people would easily get past appearance but psychology has proven time after time that people's perceptions are swayed by appearance.
The second side of this is if the hiring manager themselves doesn't care about your appearance because they understand your qualifications, they still may care about what assumptions clients would make about the firm based on your appearance. If one sale falls through because the hiring manager failed to pick someone who looked the part that could cost the company more than the hiring managers annual salary.
Not looking the part is a strike against you; whether that is fair or reasonable it's the pragmatic truth.
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Yes.
Would be lovely for the fashion industry, but finance requires more conservative apparel.
You can always find a place where they'll take you in as you are, but being rejected by even one place satisfies the condition of your question. I'm just preempting comments here.
Image source
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Numbering left to right 1-9, I would say 2, 7, and particular 9 will be problematic. 3 looks pretty harmless.
– Martin Bonner
yesterday
12
Importantly, some of these can be styled in a more conservative look. The more the haircut requires the fauxhawk styling, the bigger a problem you're likely to have.
– Upper_Case
yesterday
24
Currently working in finance--you might get an interview, but would almost certainly be rejected on a 'cultural fit' reason, particularly if you're looking to get into the industry. If you've made a name for yourself you can afford to be eccentric, but certainly not when you're just walking in the door.
– Marisa
yesterday
8
@Marisa: I've met people working in sales roles in finance (investment funds and insurance, to be precise) with hairstyles pretty close to some of those pictured above. I wouldn't find e.g. #4 even particularly unusual. I'm sure some companies and clients may expect a more traditional style, and local cultural variation probably matters too, but I'd expect the real sticking point in most cases would not be the specific hairstyle per se, but whether it looks neat, clean and well groomed.
– Ilmari Karonen
yesterday
4
@MartinBonner That's numberwang!
– rath
23 hours ago
|
show 6 more comments
Yes.
Would be lovely for the fashion industry, but finance requires more conservative apparel.
You can always find a place where they'll take you in as you are, but being rejected by even one place satisfies the condition of your question. I'm just preempting comments here.
Image source
26
Numbering left to right 1-9, I would say 2, 7, and particular 9 will be problematic. 3 looks pretty harmless.
– Martin Bonner
yesterday
12
Importantly, some of these can be styled in a more conservative look. The more the haircut requires the fauxhawk styling, the bigger a problem you're likely to have.
– Upper_Case
yesterday
24
Currently working in finance--you might get an interview, but would almost certainly be rejected on a 'cultural fit' reason, particularly if you're looking to get into the industry. If you've made a name for yourself you can afford to be eccentric, but certainly not when you're just walking in the door.
– Marisa
yesterday
8
@Marisa: I've met people working in sales roles in finance (investment funds and insurance, to be precise) with hairstyles pretty close to some of those pictured above. I wouldn't find e.g. #4 even particularly unusual. I'm sure some companies and clients may expect a more traditional style, and local cultural variation probably matters too, but I'd expect the real sticking point in most cases would not be the specific hairstyle per se, but whether it looks neat, clean and well groomed.
– Ilmari Karonen
yesterday
4
@MartinBonner That's numberwang!
– rath
23 hours ago
|
show 6 more comments
Yes.
Would be lovely for the fashion industry, but finance requires more conservative apparel.
You can always find a place where they'll take you in as you are, but being rejected by even one place satisfies the condition of your question. I'm just preempting comments here.
Image source
Yes.
Would be lovely for the fashion industry, but finance requires more conservative apparel.
You can always find a place where they'll take you in as you are, but being rejected by even one place satisfies the condition of your question. I'm just preempting comments here.
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Numbering left to right 1-9, I would say 2, 7, and particular 9 will be problematic. 3 looks pretty harmless.
– Martin Bonner
yesterday
12
Importantly, some of these can be styled in a more conservative look. The more the haircut requires the fauxhawk styling, the bigger a problem you're likely to have.
– Upper_Case
yesterday
24
Currently working in finance--you might get an interview, but would almost certainly be rejected on a 'cultural fit' reason, particularly if you're looking to get into the industry. If you've made a name for yourself you can afford to be eccentric, but certainly not when you're just walking in the door.
– Marisa
yesterday
8
@Marisa: I've met people working in sales roles in finance (investment funds and insurance, to be precise) with hairstyles pretty close to some of those pictured above. I wouldn't find e.g. #4 even particularly unusual. I'm sure some companies and clients may expect a more traditional style, and local cultural variation probably matters too, but I'd expect the real sticking point in most cases would not be the specific hairstyle per se, but whether it looks neat, clean and well groomed.
– Ilmari Karonen
yesterday
4
@MartinBonner That's numberwang!
– rath
23 hours ago
|
show 6 more comments
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Numbering left to right 1-9, I would say 2, 7, and particular 9 will be problematic. 3 looks pretty harmless.
– Martin Bonner
yesterday
12
Importantly, some of these can be styled in a more conservative look. The more the haircut requires the fauxhawk styling, the bigger a problem you're likely to have.
– Upper_Case
yesterday
24
Currently working in finance--you might get an interview, but would almost certainly be rejected on a 'cultural fit' reason, particularly if you're looking to get into the industry. If you've made a name for yourself you can afford to be eccentric, but certainly not when you're just walking in the door.
– Marisa
yesterday
8
@Marisa: I've met people working in sales roles in finance (investment funds and insurance, to be precise) with hairstyles pretty close to some of those pictured above. I wouldn't find e.g. #4 even particularly unusual. I'm sure some companies and clients may expect a more traditional style, and local cultural variation probably matters too, but I'd expect the real sticking point in most cases would not be the specific hairstyle per se, but whether it looks neat, clean and well groomed.
– Ilmari Karonen
yesterday
4
@MartinBonner That's numberwang!
– rath
23 hours ago
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Numbering left to right 1-9, I would say 2, 7, and particular 9 will be problematic. 3 looks pretty harmless.
– Martin Bonner
yesterday
Numbering left to right 1-9, I would say 2, 7, and particular 9 will be problematic. 3 looks pretty harmless.
– Martin Bonner
yesterday
12
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Importantly, some of these can be styled in a more conservative look. The more the haircut requires the fauxhawk styling, the bigger a problem you're likely to have.
– Upper_Case
yesterday
Importantly, some of these can be styled in a more conservative look. The more the haircut requires the fauxhawk styling, the bigger a problem you're likely to have.
– Upper_Case
yesterday
24
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Currently working in finance--you might get an interview, but would almost certainly be rejected on a 'cultural fit' reason, particularly if you're looking to get into the industry. If you've made a name for yourself you can afford to be eccentric, but certainly not when you're just walking in the door.
– Marisa
yesterday
Currently working in finance--you might get an interview, but would almost certainly be rejected on a 'cultural fit' reason, particularly if you're looking to get into the industry. If you've made a name for yourself you can afford to be eccentric, but certainly not when you're just walking in the door.
– Marisa
yesterday
8
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@Marisa: I've met people working in sales roles in finance (investment funds and insurance, to be precise) with hairstyles pretty close to some of those pictured above. I wouldn't find e.g. #4 even particularly unusual. I'm sure some companies and clients may expect a more traditional style, and local cultural variation probably matters too, but I'd expect the real sticking point in most cases would not be the specific hairstyle per se, but whether it looks neat, clean and well groomed.
– Ilmari Karonen
yesterday
@Marisa: I've met people working in sales roles in finance (investment funds and insurance, to be precise) with hairstyles pretty close to some of those pictured above. I wouldn't find e.g. #4 even particularly unusual. I'm sure some companies and clients may expect a more traditional style, and local cultural variation probably matters too, but I'd expect the real sticking point in most cases would not be the specific hairstyle per se, but whether it looks neat, clean and well groomed.
– Ilmari Karonen
yesterday
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@MartinBonner That's numberwang!
– rath
23 hours ago
@MartinBonner That's numberwang!
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This is the kind of move that could get you blacklisted from the entire industry, don't do it.
Yes, it would be taken that seriously.
If you were to show up like that to a financial company, you would be the talk of the town form months.
I've worked in the financial industry, and it is VERY conservative, at least in appearances. You want people to trust your company with your money. If I were to hire you looking like that, not only would you not be taken seriously by my customers, but my judgment would be called into question.
Again, this is why networking and studying an industry before trying to break into it is so important.
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Depends. What is finance? Come to me, proove your value, go home with a higher 6 digit paycheck and I do not care. TRADING - also finance - is not conservative. Anything customer facing - YES; Absolutely totally right. But there ARE niches.
– TomTom
yesterday
14
@TomTom as someone in the finance industry; I promise you someone looking like that wouldn't get hired anywhere where I've worked. You might want to think that it's just synthetic, and that you can prove your worth; but employees are a risk; and one that needs to be minimised...
– UKMonkey
yesterday
6
@TomTom Like UKmonkey, I have also worked in the finance industry. There are indeed niche industries, but those are for customers, not workers. Even Johnny Rotten shows up in a suit for court.
– Richard U
yesterday
15
Very location and company depending. Had a banker that looked very much like 4th guy from the other answer. Everything else looked very professional and it all fit together very well, so maybe he compensated enough or made it look professional enough with his overall style, but it is surely possible. And despite all my other banking advisors, I still somewhat remember him. So, is it harder, sure. And I would first get a job and then start to get more fancy with the hair rather than the other way around, but it's possible - in limits and if framed right.
– Darkwing
yesterday
7
There is no such thing as a industry blacklist, not even a imaginary one. And while FI is conservative they also employ young job starters like everybody else. I am sure you can even find advertising material showing young and fashionable hair cuts.
– eckes
23 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
This is the kind of move that could get you blacklisted from the entire industry, don't do it.
Yes, it would be taken that seriously.
If you were to show up like that to a financial company, you would be the talk of the town form months.
I've worked in the financial industry, and it is VERY conservative, at least in appearances. You want people to trust your company with your money. If I were to hire you looking like that, not only would you not be taken seriously by my customers, but my judgment would be called into question.
Again, this is why networking and studying an industry before trying to break into it is so important.
18
Depends. What is finance? Come to me, proove your value, go home with a higher 6 digit paycheck and I do not care. TRADING - also finance - is not conservative. Anything customer facing - YES; Absolutely totally right. But there ARE niches.
– TomTom
yesterday
14
@TomTom as someone in the finance industry; I promise you someone looking like that wouldn't get hired anywhere where I've worked. You might want to think that it's just synthetic, and that you can prove your worth; but employees are a risk; and one that needs to be minimised...
– UKMonkey
yesterday
6
@TomTom Like UKmonkey, I have also worked in the finance industry. There are indeed niche industries, but those are for customers, not workers. Even Johnny Rotten shows up in a suit for court.
– Richard U
yesterday
15
Very location and company depending. Had a banker that looked very much like 4th guy from the other answer. Everything else looked very professional and it all fit together very well, so maybe he compensated enough or made it look professional enough with his overall style, but it is surely possible. And despite all my other banking advisors, I still somewhat remember him. So, is it harder, sure. And I would first get a job and then start to get more fancy with the hair rather than the other way around, but it's possible - in limits and if framed right.
– Darkwing
yesterday
7
There is no such thing as a industry blacklist, not even a imaginary one. And while FI is conservative they also employ young job starters like everybody else. I am sure you can even find advertising material showing young and fashionable hair cuts.
– eckes
23 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
This is the kind of move that could get you blacklisted from the entire industry, don't do it.
Yes, it would be taken that seriously.
If you were to show up like that to a financial company, you would be the talk of the town form months.
I've worked in the financial industry, and it is VERY conservative, at least in appearances. You want people to trust your company with your money. If I were to hire you looking like that, not only would you not be taken seriously by my customers, but my judgment would be called into question.
Again, this is why networking and studying an industry before trying to break into it is so important.
This is the kind of move that could get you blacklisted from the entire industry, don't do it.
Yes, it would be taken that seriously.
If you were to show up like that to a financial company, you would be the talk of the town form months.
I've worked in the financial industry, and it is VERY conservative, at least in appearances. You want people to trust your company with your money. If I were to hire you looking like that, not only would you not be taken seriously by my customers, but my judgment would be called into question.
Again, this is why networking and studying an industry before trying to break into it is so important.
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Depends. What is finance? Come to me, proove your value, go home with a higher 6 digit paycheck and I do not care. TRADING - also finance - is not conservative. Anything customer facing - YES; Absolutely totally right. But there ARE niches.
– TomTom
yesterday
14
@TomTom as someone in the finance industry; I promise you someone looking like that wouldn't get hired anywhere where I've worked. You might want to think that it's just synthetic, and that you can prove your worth; but employees are a risk; and one that needs to be minimised...
– UKMonkey
yesterday
6
@TomTom Like UKmonkey, I have also worked in the finance industry. There are indeed niche industries, but those are for customers, not workers. Even Johnny Rotten shows up in a suit for court.
– Richard U
yesterday
15
Very location and company depending. Had a banker that looked very much like 4th guy from the other answer. Everything else looked very professional and it all fit together very well, so maybe he compensated enough or made it look professional enough with his overall style, but it is surely possible. And despite all my other banking advisors, I still somewhat remember him. So, is it harder, sure. And I would first get a job and then start to get more fancy with the hair rather than the other way around, but it's possible - in limits and if framed right.
– Darkwing
yesterday
7
There is no such thing as a industry blacklist, not even a imaginary one. And while FI is conservative they also employ young job starters like everybody else. I am sure you can even find advertising material showing young and fashionable hair cuts.
– eckes
23 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
18
Depends. What is finance? Come to me, proove your value, go home with a higher 6 digit paycheck and I do not care. TRADING - also finance - is not conservative. Anything customer facing - YES; Absolutely totally right. But there ARE niches.
– TomTom
yesterday
14
@TomTom as someone in the finance industry; I promise you someone looking like that wouldn't get hired anywhere where I've worked. You might want to think that it's just synthetic, and that you can prove your worth; but employees are a risk; and one that needs to be minimised...
– UKMonkey
yesterday
6
@TomTom Like UKmonkey, I have also worked in the finance industry. There are indeed niche industries, but those are for customers, not workers. Even Johnny Rotten shows up in a suit for court.
– Richard U
yesterday
15
Very location and company depending. Had a banker that looked very much like 4th guy from the other answer. Everything else looked very professional and it all fit together very well, so maybe he compensated enough or made it look professional enough with his overall style, but it is surely possible. And despite all my other banking advisors, I still somewhat remember him. So, is it harder, sure. And I would first get a job and then start to get more fancy with the hair rather than the other way around, but it's possible - in limits and if framed right.
– Darkwing
yesterday
7
There is no such thing as a industry blacklist, not even a imaginary one. And while FI is conservative they also employ young job starters like everybody else. I am sure you can even find advertising material showing young and fashionable hair cuts.
– eckes
23 hours ago
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Depends. What is finance? Come to me, proove your value, go home with a higher 6 digit paycheck and I do not care. TRADING - also finance - is not conservative. Anything customer facing - YES; Absolutely totally right. But there ARE niches.
– TomTom
yesterday
Depends. What is finance? Come to me, proove your value, go home with a higher 6 digit paycheck and I do not care. TRADING - also finance - is not conservative. Anything customer facing - YES; Absolutely totally right. But there ARE niches.
– TomTom
yesterday
14
14
@TomTom as someone in the finance industry; I promise you someone looking like that wouldn't get hired anywhere where I've worked. You might want to think that it's just synthetic, and that you can prove your worth; but employees are a risk; and one that needs to be minimised...
– UKMonkey
yesterday
@TomTom as someone in the finance industry; I promise you someone looking like that wouldn't get hired anywhere where I've worked. You might want to think that it's just synthetic, and that you can prove your worth; but employees are a risk; and one that needs to be minimised...
– UKMonkey
yesterday
6
6
@TomTom Like UKmonkey, I have also worked in the finance industry. There are indeed niche industries, but those are for customers, not workers. Even Johnny Rotten shows up in a suit for court.
– Richard U
yesterday
@TomTom Like UKmonkey, I have also worked in the finance industry. There are indeed niche industries, but those are for customers, not workers. Even Johnny Rotten shows up in a suit for court.
– Richard U
yesterday
15
15
Very location and company depending. Had a banker that looked very much like 4th guy from the other answer. Everything else looked very professional and it all fit together very well, so maybe he compensated enough or made it look professional enough with his overall style, but it is surely possible. And despite all my other banking advisors, I still somewhat remember him. So, is it harder, sure. And I would first get a job and then start to get more fancy with the hair rather than the other way around, but it's possible - in limits and if framed right.
– Darkwing
yesterday
Very location and company depending. Had a banker that looked very much like 4th guy from the other answer. Everything else looked very professional and it all fit together very well, so maybe he compensated enough or made it look professional enough with his overall style, but it is surely possible. And despite all my other banking advisors, I still somewhat remember him. So, is it harder, sure. And I would first get a job and then start to get more fancy with the hair rather than the other way around, but it's possible - in limits and if framed right.
– Darkwing
yesterday
7
7
There is no such thing as a industry blacklist, not even a imaginary one. And while FI is conservative they also employ young job starters like everybody else. I am sure you can even find advertising material showing young and fashionable hair cuts.
– eckes
23 hours ago
There is no such thing as a industry blacklist, not even a imaginary one. And while FI is conservative they also employ young job starters like everybody else. I am sure you can even find advertising material showing young and fashionable hair cuts.
– eckes
23 hours ago
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I don't think there's a clear cut (no pun intended) answer here. It'll depend somewhat on the subset of "Finance Industry" you're interested in, and also on the role. Hairstyle is fairly permanent (in that you can't change it as quickly as you change the shirt you're wearing) so interviewers will pay attention in conservative environments. I would expect to get friction for it in those situations.
That said, in any industry, there will be more conservative, and more casual, subsections. Applying for jobs at fin tech startups vs applying for jobs at brokers with hundred-year histories, will be different situations. The startup may not care about your hair.
In addition, within a specific subset of an industry, there will often be variations based on role. If you're applying for a job as a system admin or something else very back-office, the culture may be much more casual that a job with a big public-facing element - if you're in loan sales, you may be expected to have a conservative and "professional" appearance, for example. Having a loud hairstyle would definitely be an impact there.
Speaking from personal experience, I'm currently in a back-office role at a fairly conservative financial industry employer. I had a hairstyle similar to what you're describing when I was hired - no one cared. The dress code is business casual, hairstyles are not a big deal.
Meanwhile, our company policy specifically mentions hairstyles for public facing roles (ie sales, branch staff, etc.), and although the language is somewhat vague, it's a strong enough policy that I wouldn't have kept such a hairstyle had I been applying for one of those positions.
That leaves the question: how do you distill this into an answer that's meaningful for you?
Back office vs front office is a pretty clear distinction. Les vs more conservative for a specific employer is a little less clear - a good way to answer that is involving third party recruiters who know your target employers well, or at least the local finance industry well.
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I don't think there's a clear cut (no pun intended) answer here. It'll depend somewhat on the subset of "Finance Industry" you're interested in, and also on the role. Hairstyle is fairly permanent (in that you can't change it as quickly as you change the shirt you're wearing) so interviewers will pay attention in conservative environments. I would expect to get friction for it in those situations.
That said, in any industry, there will be more conservative, and more casual, subsections. Applying for jobs at fin tech startups vs applying for jobs at brokers with hundred-year histories, will be different situations. The startup may not care about your hair.
In addition, within a specific subset of an industry, there will often be variations based on role. If you're applying for a job as a system admin or something else very back-office, the culture may be much more casual that a job with a big public-facing element - if you're in loan sales, you may be expected to have a conservative and "professional" appearance, for example. Having a loud hairstyle would definitely be an impact there.
Speaking from personal experience, I'm currently in a back-office role at a fairly conservative financial industry employer. I had a hairstyle similar to what you're describing when I was hired - no one cared. The dress code is business casual, hairstyles are not a big deal.
Meanwhile, our company policy specifically mentions hairstyles for public facing roles (ie sales, branch staff, etc.), and although the language is somewhat vague, it's a strong enough policy that I wouldn't have kept such a hairstyle had I been applying for one of those positions.
That leaves the question: how do you distill this into an answer that's meaningful for you?
Back office vs front office is a pretty clear distinction. Les vs more conservative for a specific employer is a little less clear - a good way to answer that is involving third party recruiters who know your target employers well, or at least the local finance industry well.
add a comment |
I don't think there's a clear cut (no pun intended) answer here. It'll depend somewhat on the subset of "Finance Industry" you're interested in, and also on the role. Hairstyle is fairly permanent (in that you can't change it as quickly as you change the shirt you're wearing) so interviewers will pay attention in conservative environments. I would expect to get friction for it in those situations.
That said, in any industry, there will be more conservative, and more casual, subsections. Applying for jobs at fin tech startups vs applying for jobs at brokers with hundred-year histories, will be different situations. The startup may not care about your hair.
In addition, within a specific subset of an industry, there will often be variations based on role. If you're applying for a job as a system admin or something else very back-office, the culture may be much more casual that a job with a big public-facing element - if you're in loan sales, you may be expected to have a conservative and "professional" appearance, for example. Having a loud hairstyle would definitely be an impact there.
Speaking from personal experience, I'm currently in a back-office role at a fairly conservative financial industry employer. I had a hairstyle similar to what you're describing when I was hired - no one cared. The dress code is business casual, hairstyles are not a big deal.
Meanwhile, our company policy specifically mentions hairstyles for public facing roles (ie sales, branch staff, etc.), and although the language is somewhat vague, it's a strong enough policy that I wouldn't have kept such a hairstyle had I been applying for one of those positions.
That leaves the question: how do you distill this into an answer that's meaningful for you?
Back office vs front office is a pretty clear distinction. Les vs more conservative for a specific employer is a little less clear - a good way to answer that is involving third party recruiters who know your target employers well, or at least the local finance industry well.
I don't think there's a clear cut (no pun intended) answer here. It'll depend somewhat on the subset of "Finance Industry" you're interested in, and also on the role. Hairstyle is fairly permanent (in that you can't change it as quickly as you change the shirt you're wearing) so interviewers will pay attention in conservative environments. I would expect to get friction for it in those situations.
That said, in any industry, there will be more conservative, and more casual, subsections. Applying for jobs at fin tech startups vs applying for jobs at brokers with hundred-year histories, will be different situations. The startup may not care about your hair.
In addition, within a specific subset of an industry, there will often be variations based on role. If you're applying for a job as a system admin or something else very back-office, the culture may be much more casual that a job with a big public-facing element - if you're in loan sales, you may be expected to have a conservative and "professional" appearance, for example. Having a loud hairstyle would definitely be an impact there.
Speaking from personal experience, I'm currently in a back-office role at a fairly conservative financial industry employer. I had a hairstyle similar to what you're describing when I was hired - no one cared. The dress code is business casual, hairstyles are not a big deal.
Meanwhile, our company policy specifically mentions hairstyles for public facing roles (ie sales, branch staff, etc.), and although the language is somewhat vague, it's a strong enough policy that I wouldn't have kept such a hairstyle had I been applying for one of those positions.
That leaves the question: how do you distill this into an answer that's meaningful for you?
Back office vs front office is a pretty clear distinction. Les vs more conservative for a specific employer is a little less clear - a good way to answer that is involving third party recruiters who know your target employers well, or at least the local finance industry well.
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I agree with the general mood reflected in the above answers, but would like to add more based on my experience with a fintech company.
Financial industry as a whole has been going through drastic changes for more than a decade, driven primarily by two forces
Financial crisis which destroyed hundreds of billions of dollars led
to some old school companies such as UBS, DB etc. losing their clout.Fintech companies which have emerged during last few years also belong to
"finance industry", but they usually have an entirely different work
culture when compared to old school finance corporations. First
major global fintech company was probably Paypal which was cofounded
by Elon Musk. Companies such as Paypal could tolerate funky haircuts
which you mention.
But, then it all depends on a) which type of finance company you are going for b) which type of job you are applying for c) local culture, based on your location
New contributor
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I agree with the general mood reflected in the above answers, but would like to add more based on my experience with a fintech company.
Financial industry as a whole has been going through drastic changes for more than a decade, driven primarily by two forces
Financial crisis which destroyed hundreds of billions of dollars led
to some old school companies such as UBS, DB etc. losing their clout.Fintech companies which have emerged during last few years also belong to
"finance industry", but they usually have an entirely different work
culture when compared to old school finance corporations. First
major global fintech company was probably Paypal which was cofounded
by Elon Musk. Companies such as Paypal could tolerate funky haircuts
which you mention.
But, then it all depends on a) which type of finance company you are going for b) which type of job you are applying for c) local culture, based on your location
New contributor
add a comment |
I agree with the general mood reflected in the above answers, but would like to add more based on my experience with a fintech company.
Financial industry as a whole has been going through drastic changes for more than a decade, driven primarily by two forces
Financial crisis which destroyed hundreds of billions of dollars led
to some old school companies such as UBS, DB etc. losing their clout.Fintech companies which have emerged during last few years also belong to
"finance industry", but they usually have an entirely different work
culture when compared to old school finance corporations. First
major global fintech company was probably Paypal which was cofounded
by Elon Musk. Companies such as Paypal could tolerate funky haircuts
which you mention.
But, then it all depends on a) which type of finance company you are going for b) which type of job you are applying for c) local culture, based on your location
New contributor
I agree with the general mood reflected in the above answers, but would like to add more based on my experience with a fintech company.
Financial industry as a whole has been going through drastic changes for more than a decade, driven primarily by two forces
Financial crisis which destroyed hundreds of billions of dollars led
to some old school companies such as UBS, DB etc. losing their clout.Fintech companies which have emerged during last few years also belong to
"finance industry", but they usually have an entirely different work
culture when compared to old school finance corporations. First
major global fintech company was probably Paypal which was cofounded
by Elon Musk. Companies such as Paypal could tolerate funky haircuts
which you mention.
But, then it all depends on a) which type of finance company you are going for b) which type of job you are applying for c) local culture, based on your location
New contributor
New contributor
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As this would be a customer facing role dealing with business-to-business cliental in a conservative industry I would recommend a conservative appearance.
I see reasoning for this on two fronts. A hiring manager for a role of this nature would likely be conservative themselves. People will look for others that share their own qualities. If they see a conservative attitude as one of their positive qualities you are actively distancing yourself from this. You'd hope most people would easily get past appearance but psychology has proven time after time that people's perceptions are swayed by appearance.
The second side of this is if the hiring manager themselves doesn't care about your appearance because they understand your qualifications, they still may care about what assumptions clients would make about the firm based on your appearance. If one sale falls through because the hiring manager failed to pick someone who looked the part that could cost the company more than the hiring managers annual salary.
Not looking the part is a strike against you; whether that is fair or reasonable it's the pragmatic truth.
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As this would be a customer facing role dealing with business-to-business cliental in a conservative industry I would recommend a conservative appearance.
I see reasoning for this on two fronts. A hiring manager for a role of this nature would likely be conservative themselves. People will look for others that share their own qualities. If they see a conservative attitude as one of their positive qualities you are actively distancing yourself from this. You'd hope most people would easily get past appearance but psychology has proven time after time that people's perceptions are swayed by appearance.
The second side of this is if the hiring manager themselves doesn't care about your appearance because they understand your qualifications, they still may care about what assumptions clients would make about the firm based on your appearance. If one sale falls through because the hiring manager failed to pick someone who looked the part that could cost the company more than the hiring managers annual salary.
Not looking the part is a strike against you; whether that is fair or reasonable it's the pragmatic truth.
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As this would be a customer facing role dealing with business-to-business cliental in a conservative industry I would recommend a conservative appearance.
I see reasoning for this on two fronts. A hiring manager for a role of this nature would likely be conservative themselves. People will look for others that share their own qualities. If they see a conservative attitude as one of their positive qualities you are actively distancing yourself from this. You'd hope most people would easily get past appearance but psychology has proven time after time that people's perceptions are swayed by appearance.
The second side of this is if the hiring manager themselves doesn't care about your appearance because they understand your qualifications, they still may care about what assumptions clients would make about the firm based on your appearance. If one sale falls through because the hiring manager failed to pick someone who looked the part that could cost the company more than the hiring managers annual salary.
Not looking the part is a strike against you; whether that is fair or reasonable it's the pragmatic truth.
As this would be a customer facing role dealing with business-to-business cliental in a conservative industry I would recommend a conservative appearance.
I see reasoning for this on two fronts. A hiring manager for a role of this nature would likely be conservative themselves. People will look for others that share their own qualities. If they see a conservative attitude as one of their positive qualities you are actively distancing yourself from this. You'd hope most people would easily get past appearance but psychology has proven time after time that people's perceptions are swayed by appearance.
The second side of this is if the hiring manager themselves doesn't care about your appearance because they understand your qualifications, they still may care about what assumptions clients would make about the firm based on your appearance. If one sale falls through because the hiring manager failed to pick someone who looked the part that could cost the company more than the hiring managers annual salary.
Not looking the part is a strike against you; whether that is fair or reasonable it's the pragmatic truth.
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