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I have a large urn containing n balls, each of which is one of m different colors. What is the probability of selecting k balls at random with r unique colors?



My interest is in n=10^7, m=10^6, k~25, and 1 <= r <= k.










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  • Are the colours distributed randomly, so there is a (theoretical) chance that there are colours missing entirely? Also, note that with $m, n$ that large and $k$ that small, you can surely get five or six significant digits correct pretending that the balls are just generated as you draw them and not taken from a finite supply.
    – Arthur
    Jan 4 at 13:53












  • The colors are all observed at least once. They are not uniformly distributed. The distribution has a fat tail and is best modeled using a power-law distribution.
    – Ed Giorgio
    Jan 4 at 14:01










  • yes, you can assume that the balls are generated as you draw them and not taken from a finite supply
    – Ed Giorgio
    Jan 4 at 14:15










  • And you say the colours aren't uniformly distributed. That means that some colours are more common. How much more common?
    – Arthur
    Jan 4 at 14:21










  • Yes, some colors are more common. They obey a power-law distribution. This means that Pr[x] = a*x^(-alpha). alpha is known as the scaling parameter. This distribution is very common in many areas of science. An example is large graphs from social networking, where people connect to a small number of people frequently, and a large number of people infrequently.
    – Ed Giorgio
    Jan 4 at 16:52
















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I have a large urn containing n balls, each of which is one of m different colors. What is the probability of selecting k balls at random with r unique colors?



My interest is in n=10^7, m=10^6, k~25, and 1 <= r <= k.










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  • Are the colours distributed randomly, so there is a (theoretical) chance that there are colours missing entirely? Also, note that with $m, n$ that large and $k$ that small, you can surely get five or six significant digits correct pretending that the balls are just generated as you draw them and not taken from a finite supply.
    – Arthur
    Jan 4 at 13:53












  • The colors are all observed at least once. They are not uniformly distributed. The distribution has a fat tail and is best modeled using a power-law distribution.
    – Ed Giorgio
    Jan 4 at 14:01










  • yes, you can assume that the balls are generated as you draw them and not taken from a finite supply
    – Ed Giorgio
    Jan 4 at 14:15










  • And you say the colours aren't uniformly distributed. That means that some colours are more common. How much more common?
    – Arthur
    Jan 4 at 14:21










  • Yes, some colors are more common. They obey a power-law distribution. This means that Pr[x] = a*x^(-alpha). alpha is known as the scaling parameter. This distribution is very common in many areas of science. An example is large graphs from social networking, where people connect to a small number of people frequently, and a large number of people infrequently.
    – Ed Giorgio
    Jan 4 at 16:52














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I have a large urn containing n balls, each of which is one of m different colors. What is the probability of selecting k balls at random with r unique colors?



My interest is in n=10^7, m=10^6, k~25, and 1 <= r <= k.










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I have a large urn containing n balls, each of which is one of m different colors. What is the probability of selecting k balls at random with r unique colors?



My interest is in n=10^7, m=10^6, k~25, and 1 <= r <= k.







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put on hold as off-topic by amWhy, jgon, Shailesh, Leucippus, José Carlos Santos Jan 5 at 11:17


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  • Are the colours distributed randomly, so there is a (theoretical) chance that there are colours missing entirely? Also, note that with $m, n$ that large and $k$ that small, you can surely get five or six significant digits correct pretending that the balls are just generated as you draw them and not taken from a finite supply.
    – Arthur
    Jan 4 at 13:53












  • The colors are all observed at least once. They are not uniformly distributed. The distribution has a fat tail and is best modeled using a power-law distribution.
    – Ed Giorgio
    Jan 4 at 14:01










  • yes, you can assume that the balls are generated as you draw them and not taken from a finite supply
    – Ed Giorgio
    Jan 4 at 14:15










  • And you say the colours aren't uniformly distributed. That means that some colours are more common. How much more common?
    – Arthur
    Jan 4 at 14:21










  • Yes, some colors are more common. They obey a power-law distribution. This means that Pr[x] = a*x^(-alpha). alpha is known as the scaling parameter. This distribution is very common in many areas of science. An example is large graphs from social networking, where people connect to a small number of people frequently, and a large number of people infrequently.
    – Ed Giorgio
    Jan 4 at 16:52


















  • Are the colours distributed randomly, so there is a (theoretical) chance that there are colours missing entirely? Also, note that with $m, n$ that large and $k$ that small, you can surely get five or six significant digits correct pretending that the balls are just generated as you draw them and not taken from a finite supply.
    – Arthur
    Jan 4 at 13:53












  • The colors are all observed at least once. They are not uniformly distributed. The distribution has a fat tail and is best modeled using a power-law distribution.
    – Ed Giorgio
    Jan 4 at 14:01










  • yes, you can assume that the balls are generated as you draw them and not taken from a finite supply
    – Ed Giorgio
    Jan 4 at 14:15










  • And you say the colours aren't uniformly distributed. That means that some colours are more common. How much more common?
    – Arthur
    Jan 4 at 14:21










  • Yes, some colors are more common. They obey a power-law distribution. This means that Pr[x] = a*x^(-alpha). alpha is known as the scaling parameter. This distribution is very common in many areas of science. An example is large graphs from social networking, where people connect to a small number of people frequently, and a large number of people infrequently.
    – Ed Giorgio
    Jan 4 at 16:52
















Are the colours distributed randomly, so there is a (theoretical) chance that there are colours missing entirely? Also, note that with $m, n$ that large and $k$ that small, you can surely get five or six significant digits correct pretending that the balls are just generated as you draw them and not taken from a finite supply.
– Arthur
Jan 4 at 13:53






Are the colours distributed randomly, so there is a (theoretical) chance that there are colours missing entirely? Also, note that with $m, n$ that large and $k$ that small, you can surely get five or six significant digits correct pretending that the balls are just generated as you draw them and not taken from a finite supply.
– Arthur
Jan 4 at 13:53














The colors are all observed at least once. They are not uniformly distributed. The distribution has a fat tail and is best modeled using a power-law distribution.
– Ed Giorgio
Jan 4 at 14:01




The colors are all observed at least once. They are not uniformly distributed. The distribution has a fat tail and is best modeled using a power-law distribution.
– Ed Giorgio
Jan 4 at 14:01












yes, you can assume that the balls are generated as you draw them and not taken from a finite supply
– Ed Giorgio
Jan 4 at 14:15




yes, you can assume that the balls are generated as you draw them and not taken from a finite supply
– Ed Giorgio
Jan 4 at 14:15












And you say the colours aren't uniformly distributed. That means that some colours are more common. How much more common?
– Arthur
Jan 4 at 14:21




And you say the colours aren't uniformly distributed. That means that some colours are more common. How much more common?
– Arthur
Jan 4 at 14:21












Yes, some colors are more common. They obey a power-law distribution. This means that Pr[x] = a*x^(-alpha). alpha is known as the scaling parameter. This distribution is very common in many areas of science. An example is large graphs from social networking, where people connect to a small number of people frequently, and a large number of people infrequently.
– Ed Giorgio
Jan 4 at 16:52




Yes, some colors are more common. They obey a power-law distribution. This means that Pr[x] = a*x^(-alpha). alpha is known as the scaling parameter. This distribution is very common in many areas of science. An example is large graphs from social networking, where people connect to a small number of people frequently, and a large number of people infrequently.
– Ed Giorgio
Jan 4 at 16:52










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