a problem on complex numbers
Let $wneq 1$ and $w^{13} = 1$.
If $a = w+ w^3 + w^4 + w^{-4} + w^{-3} + w^{-1}$ and $b = w^2+ w^5 + w^6 + w^{-6} + w^{-5} + w^{-2}$, then the quadratic equation whose roots are $a$ and $b$ is ... ?
I got $w=cos(frac{2pi}{13})+isin(frac{2pi}{13})$
And then I found $a$ and $b$ in trigonometric form. But when I multiplied them to get the product of roots it gets very difficult. How to solve it?
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Let $wneq 1$ and $w^{13} = 1$.
If $a = w+ w^3 + w^4 + w^{-4} + w^{-3} + w^{-1}$ and $b = w^2+ w^5 + w^6 + w^{-6} + w^{-5} + w^{-2}$, then the quadratic equation whose roots are $a$ and $b$ is ... ?
I got $w=cos(frac{2pi}{13})+isin(frac{2pi}{13})$
And then I found $a$ and $b$ in trigonometric form. But when I multiplied them to get the product of roots it gets very difficult. How to solve it?
complex-numbers
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"And then I found a and b in trigonometric form. But when I multiplied them to get the product of roots it gets very difficult." If you found a and b in trig form how can multiplying them together be difficult?
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Let $wneq 1$ and $w^{13} = 1$.
If $a = w+ w^3 + w^4 + w^{-4} + w^{-3} + w^{-1}$ and $b = w^2+ w^5 + w^6 + w^{-6} + w^{-5} + w^{-2}$, then the quadratic equation whose roots are $a$ and $b$ is ... ?
I got $w=cos(frac{2pi}{13})+isin(frac{2pi}{13})$
And then I found $a$ and $b$ in trigonometric form. But when I multiplied them to get the product of roots it gets very difficult. How to solve it?
complex-numbers
Let $wneq 1$ and $w^{13} = 1$.
If $a = w+ w^3 + w^4 + w^{-4} + w^{-3} + w^{-1}$ and $b = w^2+ w^5 + w^6 + w^{-6} + w^{-5} + w^{-2}$, then the quadratic equation whose roots are $a$ and $b$ is ... ?
I got $w=cos(frac{2pi}{13})+isin(frac{2pi}{13})$
And then I found $a$ and $b$ in trigonometric form. But when I multiplied them to get the product of roots it gets very difficult. How to solve it?
complex-numbers
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"And then I found a and b in trigonometric form. But when I multiplied them to get the product of roots it gets very difficult." If you found a and b in trig form how can multiplying them together be difficult?
– fleablood
2 days ago
Ditto what K Split X said. Many people will simply ignore questions that are titled something like "question about subject-tag". I know I certainly am not going to read the problem statement. Keep the tags in the tags section, and put your question in the title, or some adequate abbreviation of it.
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Welcome to the site. Please typeset your equations with Mathjax for better presentation.
– Shubham Johri
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These are Gaussian periods: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaussian_period
– Lord Shark the Unknown
2 days ago
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Also, you are more likely to get views if you actually title your "question" properly. Something like "Solving quadratic roots of complex numbers" is much better then your current title
– K Split X
2 days ago
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"And then I found a and b in trigonometric form. But when I multiplied them to get the product of roots it gets very difficult." If you found a and b in trig form how can multiplying them together be difficult?
– fleablood
2 days ago
Ditto what K Split X said. Many people will simply ignore questions that are titled something like "question about subject-tag". I know I certainly am not going to read the problem statement. Keep the tags in the tags section, and put your question in the title, or some adequate abbreviation of it.
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These are Gaussian periods: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaussian_period
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These are Gaussian periods: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaussian_period
– Lord Shark the Unknown
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Also, you are more likely to get views if you actually title your "question" properly. Something like "Solving quadratic roots of complex numbers" is much better then your current title
– K Split X
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Also, you are more likely to get views if you actually title your "question" properly. Something like "Solving quadratic roots of complex numbers" is much better then your current title
– K Split X
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"And then I found a and b in trigonometric form. But when I multiplied them to get the product of roots it gets very difficult." If you found a and b in trig form how can multiplying them together be difficult?
– fleablood
2 days ago
"And then I found a and b in trigonometric form. But when I multiplied them to get the product of roots it gets very difficult." If you found a and b in trig form how can multiplying them together be difficult?
– fleablood
2 days ago
Ditto what K Split X said. Many people will simply ignore questions that are titled something like "question about subject-tag". I know I certainly am not going to read the problem statement. Keep the tags in the tags section, and put your question in the title, or some adequate abbreviation of it.
– rschwieb
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Step 1: the equation you want is $(z-a)(z-b)=0$. Expand the product and you get $$z^2-(a+b)z+ab=0$$
Step 2: Use $w^{13}=1$, so $w^{-1}=w^{13}w^{-1}=w^{12}$ similarly, for all negative powers $$w^{-n}=w^{13-n}$$
Step 3: $$a+b=w+w^3+w^4+w^9+w^{10}+w^{12}+w^2+w^5+w^6+w^7+w^8+w^{11}=\=frac{w^{13}-1}{w-1}-1=-1$$
Step 4: To find $ab$, go to the trigonometric representation, and notice $$w^n+w^{-n}=2cosfrac{2pi n}{13}$$
Edit: After some manipulations, and using $w^{n+13}=w^n$, I've got $$ab=3(w+w^2+w^3+w^4+w^5+w^6+w^7+w^8+w^9+w^{10}+w^{11}+w^{12})=\-3+3(1+w+w^2+w^3+w^4+w^5+w^6+w^7+w^8+w^9+w^{10}+w^{11}+w^{12})=-3$$
I got to this point. I can not solve the trigonometric part.
– Rituraj Tripathy
2 days ago
I went back to $w$ and wrote explicitly the product
– Andrei
2 days ago
I think Step 3 should give $a+b=-1$. Note that $frac{w^{13}-1}{w-1}=1+w+w^2+dots+w^{12} = a+b+1$.
– gandalf61
2 days ago
Fixed that. I forgot to add and subtract one. I've just added.
– Andrei
2 days ago
Andrei, it is not entirely necessary to relate $a$ and $b.$ See page 16 in books.google.com/… The method is due to Gauss, modern discussion (but just a few examples) in zakuski.utsa.edu/~jagy/cox_galois_Gaussian_periods.pdf
– Will Jagy
yesterday
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$$ a^2 + a = frac{ w^{16} + 2w^{15} + w^{14} + 2w^{13} + 3w^{12} + 3w^{11} + 3w^{10} + 3w^9 + 6w^8 + 3w^7 + 3w^6 + 3w^5 + 3w^4 + 2w^3 + w^2 + 2w + 1}{w^8} $$
This is not impressive without
$$ w^{16} + 2w^{15} + w^{14} + 2w^{13} = w^3+2w^2+w+2. $$ Therefore
$$ a^2 + a = frac{ 3w^{12} + 3w^{11} + 3w^{10} + 3w^9 + 6w^8 + 3w^7 + 3w^6 + 3w^5 + 3w^4 + 3w^3 + 3w^2 + 3w + 3}{w^8} $$
The one coefficient out of line is $6 w^8 / w^8,$ so we need to subtract 3
$$ a^2 + a -3 = frac{ 3w^{12} + 3w^{11} + 3w^{10} + 3w^9 + 3w^8 + 3w^7 + 3w^6 + 3w^5 + 3w^4 + 3w^3 + 3w^2 + 3w + 3}{w^8} $$
$$ a^2 + a -3 = frac{ 3 left( w^{12} + w^{11} + w^{10} + w^9 + w^8 + w^7 + w^6 + w^5 + w^4 + w^3 + w^2 + w + 1 right)}{w^8} $$
and
$$ a^2 + a - 3 = 0 $$
Elegant solution, but it might be at a higher level than what the question wanted. It would have probably had different tags.
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Step 1: the equation you want is $(z-a)(z-b)=0$. Expand the product and you get $$z^2-(a+b)z+ab=0$$
Step 2: Use $w^{13}=1$, so $w^{-1}=w^{13}w^{-1}=w^{12}$ similarly, for all negative powers $$w^{-n}=w^{13-n}$$
Step 3: $$a+b=w+w^3+w^4+w^9+w^{10}+w^{12}+w^2+w^5+w^6+w^7+w^8+w^{11}=\=frac{w^{13}-1}{w-1}-1=-1$$
Step 4: To find $ab$, go to the trigonometric representation, and notice $$w^n+w^{-n}=2cosfrac{2pi n}{13}$$
Edit: After some manipulations, and using $w^{n+13}=w^n$, I've got $$ab=3(w+w^2+w^3+w^4+w^5+w^6+w^7+w^8+w^9+w^{10}+w^{11}+w^{12})=\-3+3(1+w+w^2+w^3+w^4+w^5+w^6+w^7+w^8+w^9+w^{10}+w^{11}+w^{12})=-3$$
I got to this point. I can not solve the trigonometric part.
– Rituraj Tripathy
2 days ago
I went back to $w$ and wrote explicitly the product
– Andrei
2 days ago
I think Step 3 should give $a+b=-1$. Note that $frac{w^{13}-1}{w-1}=1+w+w^2+dots+w^{12} = a+b+1$.
– gandalf61
2 days ago
Fixed that. I forgot to add and subtract one. I've just added.
– Andrei
2 days ago
Andrei, it is not entirely necessary to relate $a$ and $b.$ See page 16 in books.google.com/… The method is due to Gauss, modern discussion (but just a few examples) in zakuski.utsa.edu/~jagy/cox_galois_Gaussian_periods.pdf
– Will Jagy
yesterday
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Step 1: the equation you want is $(z-a)(z-b)=0$. Expand the product and you get $$z^2-(a+b)z+ab=0$$
Step 2: Use $w^{13}=1$, so $w^{-1}=w^{13}w^{-1}=w^{12}$ similarly, for all negative powers $$w^{-n}=w^{13-n}$$
Step 3: $$a+b=w+w^3+w^4+w^9+w^{10}+w^{12}+w^2+w^5+w^6+w^7+w^8+w^{11}=\=frac{w^{13}-1}{w-1}-1=-1$$
Step 4: To find $ab$, go to the trigonometric representation, and notice $$w^n+w^{-n}=2cosfrac{2pi n}{13}$$
Edit: After some manipulations, and using $w^{n+13}=w^n$, I've got $$ab=3(w+w^2+w^3+w^4+w^5+w^6+w^7+w^8+w^9+w^{10}+w^{11}+w^{12})=\-3+3(1+w+w^2+w^3+w^4+w^5+w^6+w^7+w^8+w^9+w^{10}+w^{11}+w^{12})=-3$$
I got to this point. I can not solve the trigonometric part.
– Rituraj Tripathy
2 days ago
I went back to $w$ and wrote explicitly the product
– Andrei
2 days ago
I think Step 3 should give $a+b=-1$. Note that $frac{w^{13}-1}{w-1}=1+w+w^2+dots+w^{12} = a+b+1$.
– gandalf61
2 days ago
Fixed that. I forgot to add and subtract one. I've just added.
– Andrei
2 days ago
Andrei, it is not entirely necessary to relate $a$ and $b.$ See page 16 in books.google.com/… The method is due to Gauss, modern discussion (but just a few examples) in zakuski.utsa.edu/~jagy/cox_galois_Gaussian_periods.pdf
– Will Jagy
yesterday
add a comment |
Step 1: the equation you want is $(z-a)(z-b)=0$. Expand the product and you get $$z^2-(a+b)z+ab=0$$
Step 2: Use $w^{13}=1$, so $w^{-1}=w^{13}w^{-1}=w^{12}$ similarly, for all negative powers $$w^{-n}=w^{13-n}$$
Step 3: $$a+b=w+w^3+w^4+w^9+w^{10}+w^{12}+w^2+w^5+w^6+w^7+w^8+w^{11}=\=frac{w^{13}-1}{w-1}-1=-1$$
Step 4: To find $ab$, go to the trigonometric representation, and notice $$w^n+w^{-n}=2cosfrac{2pi n}{13}$$
Edit: After some manipulations, and using $w^{n+13}=w^n$, I've got $$ab=3(w+w^2+w^3+w^4+w^5+w^6+w^7+w^8+w^9+w^{10}+w^{11}+w^{12})=\-3+3(1+w+w^2+w^3+w^4+w^5+w^6+w^7+w^8+w^9+w^{10}+w^{11}+w^{12})=-3$$
Step 1: the equation you want is $(z-a)(z-b)=0$. Expand the product and you get $$z^2-(a+b)z+ab=0$$
Step 2: Use $w^{13}=1$, so $w^{-1}=w^{13}w^{-1}=w^{12}$ similarly, for all negative powers $$w^{-n}=w^{13-n}$$
Step 3: $$a+b=w+w^3+w^4+w^9+w^{10}+w^{12}+w^2+w^5+w^6+w^7+w^8+w^{11}=\=frac{w^{13}-1}{w-1}-1=-1$$
Step 4: To find $ab$, go to the trigonometric representation, and notice $$w^n+w^{-n}=2cosfrac{2pi n}{13}$$
Edit: After some manipulations, and using $w^{n+13}=w^n$, I've got $$ab=3(w+w^2+w^3+w^4+w^5+w^6+w^7+w^8+w^9+w^{10}+w^{11}+w^{12})=\-3+3(1+w+w^2+w^3+w^4+w^5+w^6+w^7+w^8+w^9+w^{10}+w^{11}+w^{12})=-3$$
edited 2 days ago
answered 2 days ago
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I got to this point. I can not solve the trigonometric part.
– Rituraj Tripathy
2 days ago
I went back to $w$ and wrote explicitly the product
– Andrei
2 days ago
I think Step 3 should give $a+b=-1$. Note that $frac{w^{13}-1}{w-1}=1+w+w^2+dots+w^{12} = a+b+1$.
– gandalf61
2 days ago
Fixed that. I forgot to add and subtract one. I've just added.
– Andrei
2 days ago
Andrei, it is not entirely necessary to relate $a$ and $b.$ See page 16 in books.google.com/… The method is due to Gauss, modern discussion (but just a few examples) in zakuski.utsa.edu/~jagy/cox_galois_Gaussian_periods.pdf
– Will Jagy
yesterday
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I got to this point. I can not solve the trigonometric part.
– Rituraj Tripathy
2 days ago
I went back to $w$ and wrote explicitly the product
– Andrei
2 days ago
I think Step 3 should give $a+b=-1$. Note that $frac{w^{13}-1}{w-1}=1+w+w^2+dots+w^{12} = a+b+1$.
– gandalf61
2 days ago
Fixed that. I forgot to add and subtract one. I've just added.
– Andrei
2 days ago
Andrei, it is not entirely necessary to relate $a$ and $b.$ See page 16 in books.google.com/… The method is due to Gauss, modern discussion (but just a few examples) in zakuski.utsa.edu/~jagy/cox_galois_Gaussian_periods.pdf
– Will Jagy
yesterday
I got to this point. I can not solve the trigonometric part.
– Rituraj Tripathy
2 days ago
I got to this point. I can not solve the trigonometric part.
– Rituraj Tripathy
2 days ago
I went back to $w$ and wrote explicitly the product
– Andrei
2 days ago
I went back to $w$ and wrote explicitly the product
– Andrei
2 days ago
I think Step 3 should give $a+b=-1$. Note that $frac{w^{13}-1}{w-1}=1+w+w^2+dots+w^{12} = a+b+1$.
– gandalf61
2 days ago
I think Step 3 should give $a+b=-1$. Note that $frac{w^{13}-1}{w-1}=1+w+w^2+dots+w^{12} = a+b+1$.
– gandalf61
2 days ago
Fixed that. I forgot to add and subtract one. I've just added.
– Andrei
2 days ago
Fixed that. I forgot to add and subtract one. I've just added.
– Andrei
2 days ago
Andrei, it is not entirely necessary to relate $a$ and $b.$ See page 16 in books.google.com/… The method is due to Gauss, modern discussion (but just a few examples) in zakuski.utsa.edu/~jagy/cox_galois_Gaussian_periods.pdf
– Will Jagy
yesterday
Andrei, it is not entirely necessary to relate $a$ and $b.$ See page 16 in books.google.com/… The method is due to Gauss, modern discussion (but just a few examples) in zakuski.utsa.edu/~jagy/cox_galois_Gaussian_periods.pdf
– Will Jagy
yesterday
add a comment |
$$ a^2 + a = frac{ w^{16} + 2w^{15} + w^{14} + 2w^{13} + 3w^{12} + 3w^{11} + 3w^{10} + 3w^9 + 6w^8 + 3w^7 + 3w^6 + 3w^5 + 3w^4 + 2w^3 + w^2 + 2w + 1}{w^8} $$
This is not impressive without
$$ w^{16} + 2w^{15} + w^{14} + 2w^{13} = w^3+2w^2+w+2. $$ Therefore
$$ a^2 + a = frac{ 3w^{12} + 3w^{11} + 3w^{10} + 3w^9 + 6w^8 + 3w^7 + 3w^6 + 3w^5 + 3w^4 + 3w^3 + 3w^2 + 3w + 3}{w^8} $$
The one coefficient out of line is $6 w^8 / w^8,$ so we need to subtract 3
$$ a^2 + a -3 = frac{ 3w^{12} + 3w^{11} + 3w^{10} + 3w^9 + 3w^8 + 3w^7 + 3w^6 + 3w^5 + 3w^4 + 3w^3 + 3w^2 + 3w + 3}{w^8} $$
$$ a^2 + a -3 = frac{ 3 left( w^{12} + w^{11} + w^{10} + w^9 + w^8 + w^7 + w^6 + w^5 + w^4 + w^3 + w^2 + w + 1 right)}{w^8} $$
and
$$ a^2 + a - 3 = 0 $$
Elegant solution, but it might be at a higher level than what the question wanted. It would have probably had different tags.
– Andrei
yesterday
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$$ a^2 + a = frac{ w^{16} + 2w^{15} + w^{14} + 2w^{13} + 3w^{12} + 3w^{11} + 3w^{10} + 3w^9 + 6w^8 + 3w^7 + 3w^6 + 3w^5 + 3w^4 + 2w^3 + w^2 + 2w + 1}{w^8} $$
This is not impressive without
$$ w^{16} + 2w^{15} + w^{14} + 2w^{13} = w^3+2w^2+w+2. $$ Therefore
$$ a^2 + a = frac{ 3w^{12} + 3w^{11} + 3w^{10} + 3w^9 + 6w^8 + 3w^7 + 3w^6 + 3w^5 + 3w^4 + 3w^3 + 3w^2 + 3w + 3}{w^8} $$
The one coefficient out of line is $6 w^8 / w^8,$ so we need to subtract 3
$$ a^2 + a -3 = frac{ 3w^{12} + 3w^{11} + 3w^{10} + 3w^9 + 3w^8 + 3w^7 + 3w^6 + 3w^5 + 3w^4 + 3w^3 + 3w^2 + 3w + 3}{w^8} $$
$$ a^2 + a -3 = frac{ 3 left( w^{12} + w^{11} + w^{10} + w^9 + w^8 + w^7 + w^6 + w^5 + w^4 + w^3 + w^2 + w + 1 right)}{w^8} $$
and
$$ a^2 + a - 3 = 0 $$
Elegant solution, but it might be at a higher level than what the question wanted. It would have probably had different tags.
– Andrei
yesterday
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$$ a^2 + a = frac{ w^{16} + 2w^{15} + w^{14} + 2w^{13} + 3w^{12} + 3w^{11} + 3w^{10} + 3w^9 + 6w^8 + 3w^7 + 3w^6 + 3w^5 + 3w^4 + 2w^3 + w^2 + 2w + 1}{w^8} $$
This is not impressive without
$$ w^{16} + 2w^{15} + w^{14} + 2w^{13} = w^3+2w^2+w+2. $$ Therefore
$$ a^2 + a = frac{ 3w^{12} + 3w^{11} + 3w^{10} + 3w^9 + 6w^8 + 3w^7 + 3w^6 + 3w^5 + 3w^4 + 3w^3 + 3w^2 + 3w + 3}{w^8} $$
The one coefficient out of line is $6 w^8 / w^8,$ so we need to subtract 3
$$ a^2 + a -3 = frac{ 3w^{12} + 3w^{11} + 3w^{10} + 3w^9 + 3w^8 + 3w^7 + 3w^6 + 3w^5 + 3w^4 + 3w^3 + 3w^2 + 3w + 3}{w^8} $$
$$ a^2 + a -3 = frac{ 3 left( w^{12} + w^{11} + w^{10} + w^9 + w^8 + w^7 + w^6 + w^5 + w^4 + w^3 + w^2 + w + 1 right)}{w^8} $$
and
$$ a^2 + a - 3 = 0 $$
$$ a^2 + a = frac{ w^{16} + 2w^{15} + w^{14} + 2w^{13} + 3w^{12} + 3w^{11} + 3w^{10} + 3w^9 + 6w^8 + 3w^7 + 3w^6 + 3w^5 + 3w^4 + 2w^3 + w^2 + 2w + 1}{w^8} $$
This is not impressive without
$$ w^{16} + 2w^{15} + w^{14} + 2w^{13} = w^3+2w^2+w+2. $$ Therefore
$$ a^2 + a = frac{ 3w^{12} + 3w^{11} + 3w^{10} + 3w^9 + 6w^8 + 3w^7 + 3w^6 + 3w^5 + 3w^4 + 3w^3 + 3w^2 + 3w + 3}{w^8} $$
The one coefficient out of line is $6 w^8 / w^8,$ so we need to subtract 3
$$ a^2 + a -3 = frac{ 3w^{12} + 3w^{11} + 3w^{10} + 3w^9 + 3w^8 + 3w^7 + 3w^6 + 3w^5 + 3w^4 + 3w^3 + 3w^2 + 3w + 3}{w^8} $$
$$ a^2 + a -3 = frac{ 3 left( w^{12} + w^{11} + w^{10} + w^9 + w^8 + w^7 + w^6 + w^5 + w^4 + w^3 + w^2 + w + 1 right)}{w^8} $$
and
$$ a^2 + a - 3 = 0 $$
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Elegant solution, but it might be at a higher level than what the question wanted. It would have probably had different tags.
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Elegant solution, but it might be at a higher level than what the question wanted. It would have probably had different tags.
– Andrei
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Elegant solution, but it might be at a higher level than what the question wanted. It would have probably had different tags.
– Andrei
yesterday
Elegant solution, but it might be at a higher level than what the question wanted. It would have probably had different tags.
– Andrei
yesterday
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