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Let $wneq 1$ and $w^{13} = 1$.



If $a = w+ w^3 + w^4 + w^{-4} + w^{-3} + w^{-1}$ and $b = w^2+ w^5 + w^6 + w^{-6} + w^{-5} + w^{-2}$, then the quadratic equation whose roots are $a$ and $b$ is ... ?



I got $w=cos(frac{2pi}{13})+isin(frac{2pi}{13})$
And then I found $a$ and $b$ in trigonometric form. But when I multiplied them to get the product of roots it gets very difficult. How to solve it?






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    "And then I found a and b in trigonometric form. But when I multiplied them to get the product of roots it gets very difficult." If you found a and b in trig form how can multiplying them together be difficult?
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Let $wneq 1$ and $w^{13} = 1$.



If $a = w+ w^3 + w^4 + w^{-4} + w^{-3} + w^{-1}$ and $b = w^2+ w^5 + w^6 + w^{-6} + w^{-5} + w^{-2}$, then the quadratic equation whose roots are $a$ and $b$ is ... ?



I got $w=cos(frac{2pi}{13})+isin(frac{2pi}{13})$
And then I found $a$ and $b$ in trigonometric form. But when I multiplied them to get the product of roots it gets very difficult. How to solve it?






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    These are Gaussian periods: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaussian_period
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    "And then I found a and b in trigonometric form. But when I multiplied them to get the product of roots it gets very difficult." If you found a and b in trig form how can multiplying them together be difficult?
    – fleablood
    2 days ago










  • Ditto what K Split X said. Many people will simply ignore questions that are titled something like "question about subject-tag". I know I certainly am not going to read the problem statement. Keep the tags in the tags section, and put your question in the title, or some adequate abbreviation of it.
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Let $wneq 1$ and $w^{13} = 1$.



If $a = w+ w^3 + w^4 + w^{-4} + w^{-3} + w^{-1}$ and $b = w^2+ w^5 + w^6 + w^{-6} + w^{-5} + w^{-2}$, then the quadratic equation whose roots are $a$ and $b$ is ... ?



I got $w=cos(frac{2pi}{13})+isin(frac{2pi}{13})$
And then I found $a$ and $b$ in trigonometric form. But when I multiplied them to get the product of roots it gets very difficult. How to solve it?






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Let $wneq 1$ and $w^{13} = 1$.



If $a = w+ w^3 + w^4 + w^{-4} + w^{-3} + w^{-1}$ and $b = w^2+ w^5 + w^6 + w^{-6} + w^{-5} + w^{-2}$, then the quadratic equation whose roots are $a$ and $b$ is ... ?



I got $w=cos(frac{2pi}{13})+isin(frac{2pi}{13})$
And then I found $a$ and $b$ in trigonometric form. But when I multiplied them to get the product of roots it gets very difficult. How to solve it?






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    "And then I found a and b in trigonometric form. But when I multiplied them to get the product of roots it gets very difficult." If you found a and b in trig form how can multiplying them together be difficult?
    – fleablood
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  • Welcome to the site. Please typeset your equations with Mathjax for better presentation.
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    These are Gaussian periods: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaussian_period
    – Lord Shark the Unknown
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    Also, you are more likely to get views if you actually title your "question" properly. Something like "Solving quadratic roots of complex numbers" is much better then your current title
    – K Split X
    2 days ago








  • 2




    "And then I found a and b in trigonometric form. But when I multiplied them to get the product of roots it gets very difficult." If you found a and b in trig form how can multiplying them together be difficult?
    – fleablood
    2 days ago










  • Ditto what K Split X said. Many people will simply ignore questions that are titled something like "question about subject-tag". I know I certainly am not going to read the problem statement. Keep the tags in the tags section, and put your question in the title, or some adequate abbreviation of it.
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These are Gaussian periods: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaussian_period
– Lord Shark the Unknown
2 days ago






These are Gaussian periods: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaussian_period
– Lord Shark the Unknown
2 days ago






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Also, you are more likely to get views if you actually title your "question" properly. Something like "Solving quadratic roots of complex numbers" is much better then your current title
– K Split X
2 days ago






Also, you are more likely to get views if you actually title your "question" properly. Something like "Solving quadratic roots of complex numbers" is much better then your current title
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"And then I found a and b in trigonometric form. But when I multiplied them to get the product of roots it gets very difficult." If you found a and b in trig form how can multiplying them together be difficult?
– fleablood
2 days ago




"And then I found a and b in trigonometric form. But when I multiplied them to get the product of roots it gets very difficult." If you found a and b in trig form how can multiplying them together be difficult?
– fleablood
2 days ago












Ditto what K Split X said. Many people will simply ignore questions that are titled something like "question about subject-tag". I know I certainly am not going to read the problem statement. Keep the tags in the tags section, and put your question in the title, or some adequate abbreviation of it.
– rschwieb
2 days ago






Ditto what K Split X said. Many people will simply ignore questions that are titled something like "question about subject-tag". I know I certainly am not going to read the problem statement. Keep the tags in the tags section, and put your question in the title, or some adequate abbreviation of it.
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Step 1: the equation you want is $(z-a)(z-b)=0$. Expand the product and you get $$z^2-(a+b)z+ab=0$$
Step 2: Use $w^{13}=1$, so $w^{-1}=w^{13}w^{-1}=w^{12}$ similarly, for all negative powers $$w^{-n}=w^{13-n}$$
Step 3: $$a+b=w+w^3+w^4+w^9+w^{10}+w^{12}+w^2+w^5+w^6+w^7+w^8+w^{11}=\=frac{w^{13}-1}{w-1}-1=-1$$
Step 4: To find $ab$, go to the trigonometric representation, and notice $$w^n+w^{-n}=2cosfrac{2pi n}{13}$$



Edit: After some manipulations, and using $w^{n+13}=w^n$, I've got $$ab=3(w+w^2+w^3+w^4+w^5+w^6+w^7+w^8+w^9+w^{10}+w^{11}+w^{12})=\-3+3(1+w+w^2+w^3+w^4+w^5+w^6+w^7+w^8+w^9+w^{10}+w^{11}+w^{12})=-3$$






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  • I think Step 3 should give $a+b=-1$. Note that $frac{w^{13}-1}{w-1}=1+w+w^2+dots+w^{12} = a+b+1$.
    – gandalf61
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  • Fixed that. I forgot to add and subtract one. I've just added.
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  • Andrei, it is not entirely necessary to relate $a$ and $b.$ See page 16 in books.google.com/… The method is due to Gauss, modern discussion (but just a few examples) in zakuski.utsa.edu/~jagy/cox_galois_Gaussian_periods.pdf
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$$ a^2 + a = frac{ w^{16} + 2w^{15} + w^{14} + 2w^{13} + 3w^{12} + 3w^{11} + 3w^{10} + 3w^9 + 6w^8 + 3w^7 + 3w^6 + 3w^5 + 3w^4 + 2w^3 + w^2 + 2w + 1}{w^8} $$



This is not impressive without
$$ w^{16} + 2w^{15} + w^{14} + 2w^{13} = w^3+2w^2+w+2. $$ Therefore



$$ a^2 + a = frac{ 3w^{12} + 3w^{11} + 3w^{10} + 3w^9 + 6w^8 + 3w^7 + 3w^6 + 3w^5 + 3w^4 + 3w^3 + 3w^2 + 3w + 3}{w^8} $$



The one coefficient out of line is $6 w^8 / w^8,$ so we need to subtract 3
$$ a^2 + a -3 = frac{ 3w^{12} + 3w^{11} + 3w^{10} + 3w^9 + 3w^8 + 3w^7 + 3w^6 + 3w^5 + 3w^4 + 3w^3 + 3w^2 + 3w + 3}{w^8} $$



$$ a^2 + a -3 = frac{ 3 left( w^{12} + w^{11} + w^{10} + w^9 + w^8 + w^7 + w^6 + w^5 + w^4 + w^3 + w^2 + w + 1 right)}{w^8} $$



and
$$ a^2 + a - 3 = 0 $$






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Step 1: the equation you want is $(z-a)(z-b)=0$. Expand the product and you get $$z^2-(a+b)z+ab=0$$
Step 2: Use $w^{13}=1$, so $w^{-1}=w^{13}w^{-1}=w^{12}$ similarly, for all negative powers $$w^{-n}=w^{13-n}$$
Step 3: $$a+b=w+w^3+w^4+w^9+w^{10}+w^{12}+w^2+w^5+w^6+w^7+w^8+w^{11}=\=frac{w^{13}-1}{w-1}-1=-1$$
Step 4: To find $ab$, go to the trigonometric representation, and notice $$w^n+w^{-n}=2cosfrac{2pi n}{13}$$



Edit: After some manipulations, and using $w^{n+13}=w^n$, I've got $$ab=3(w+w^2+w^3+w^4+w^5+w^6+w^7+w^8+w^9+w^{10}+w^{11}+w^{12})=\-3+3(1+w+w^2+w^3+w^4+w^5+w^6+w^7+w^8+w^9+w^{10}+w^{11}+w^{12})=-3$$






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  • I got to this point. I can not solve the trigonometric part.
    – Rituraj Tripathy
    2 days ago










  • I went back to $w$ and wrote explicitly the product
    – Andrei
    2 days ago










  • I think Step 3 should give $a+b=-1$. Note that $frac{w^{13}-1}{w-1}=1+w+w^2+dots+w^{12} = a+b+1$.
    – gandalf61
    2 days ago












  • Fixed that. I forgot to add and subtract one. I've just added.
    – Andrei
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  • Andrei, it is not entirely necessary to relate $a$ and $b.$ See page 16 in books.google.com/… The method is due to Gauss, modern discussion (but just a few examples) in zakuski.utsa.edu/~jagy/cox_galois_Gaussian_periods.pdf
    – Will Jagy
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Step 1: the equation you want is $(z-a)(z-b)=0$. Expand the product and you get $$z^2-(a+b)z+ab=0$$
Step 2: Use $w^{13}=1$, so $w^{-1}=w^{13}w^{-1}=w^{12}$ similarly, for all negative powers $$w^{-n}=w^{13-n}$$
Step 3: $$a+b=w+w^3+w^4+w^9+w^{10}+w^{12}+w^2+w^5+w^6+w^7+w^8+w^{11}=\=frac{w^{13}-1}{w-1}-1=-1$$
Step 4: To find $ab$, go to the trigonometric representation, and notice $$w^n+w^{-n}=2cosfrac{2pi n}{13}$$



Edit: After some manipulations, and using $w^{n+13}=w^n$, I've got $$ab=3(w+w^2+w^3+w^4+w^5+w^6+w^7+w^8+w^9+w^{10}+w^{11}+w^{12})=\-3+3(1+w+w^2+w^3+w^4+w^5+w^6+w^7+w^8+w^9+w^{10}+w^{11}+w^{12})=-3$$






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  • I got to this point. I can not solve the trigonometric part.
    – Rituraj Tripathy
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  • I went back to $w$ and wrote explicitly the product
    – Andrei
    2 days ago










  • I think Step 3 should give $a+b=-1$. Note that $frac{w^{13}-1}{w-1}=1+w+w^2+dots+w^{12} = a+b+1$.
    – gandalf61
    2 days ago












  • Fixed that. I forgot to add and subtract one. I've just added.
    – Andrei
    2 days ago










  • Andrei, it is not entirely necessary to relate $a$ and $b.$ See page 16 in books.google.com/… The method is due to Gauss, modern discussion (but just a few examples) in zakuski.utsa.edu/~jagy/cox_galois_Gaussian_periods.pdf
    – Will Jagy
    yesterday














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Step 1: the equation you want is $(z-a)(z-b)=0$. Expand the product and you get $$z^2-(a+b)z+ab=0$$
Step 2: Use $w^{13}=1$, so $w^{-1}=w^{13}w^{-1}=w^{12}$ similarly, for all negative powers $$w^{-n}=w^{13-n}$$
Step 3: $$a+b=w+w^3+w^4+w^9+w^{10}+w^{12}+w^2+w^5+w^6+w^7+w^8+w^{11}=\=frac{w^{13}-1}{w-1}-1=-1$$
Step 4: To find $ab$, go to the trigonometric representation, and notice $$w^n+w^{-n}=2cosfrac{2pi n}{13}$$



Edit: After some manipulations, and using $w^{n+13}=w^n$, I've got $$ab=3(w+w^2+w^3+w^4+w^5+w^6+w^7+w^8+w^9+w^{10}+w^{11}+w^{12})=\-3+3(1+w+w^2+w^3+w^4+w^5+w^6+w^7+w^8+w^9+w^{10}+w^{11}+w^{12})=-3$$






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Step 1: the equation you want is $(z-a)(z-b)=0$. Expand the product and you get $$z^2-(a+b)z+ab=0$$
Step 2: Use $w^{13}=1$, so $w^{-1}=w^{13}w^{-1}=w^{12}$ similarly, for all negative powers $$w^{-n}=w^{13-n}$$
Step 3: $$a+b=w+w^3+w^4+w^9+w^{10}+w^{12}+w^2+w^5+w^6+w^7+w^8+w^{11}=\=frac{w^{13}-1}{w-1}-1=-1$$
Step 4: To find $ab$, go to the trigonometric representation, and notice $$w^n+w^{-n}=2cosfrac{2pi n}{13}$$



Edit: After some manipulations, and using $w^{n+13}=w^n$, I've got $$ab=3(w+w^2+w^3+w^4+w^5+w^6+w^7+w^8+w^9+w^{10}+w^{11}+w^{12})=\-3+3(1+w+w^2+w^3+w^4+w^5+w^6+w^7+w^8+w^9+w^{10}+w^{11}+w^{12})=-3$$







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  • I got to this point. I can not solve the trigonometric part.
    – Rituraj Tripathy
    2 days ago










  • I went back to $w$ and wrote explicitly the product
    – Andrei
    2 days ago










  • I think Step 3 should give $a+b=-1$. Note that $frac{w^{13}-1}{w-1}=1+w+w^2+dots+w^{12} = a+b+1$.
    – gandalf61
    2 days ago












  • Fixed that. I forgot to add and subtract one. I've just added.
    – Andrei
    2 days ago










  • Andrei, it is not entirely necessary to relate $a$ and $b.$ See page 16 in books.google.com/… The method is due to Gauss, modern discussion (but just a few examples) in zakuski.utsa.edu/~jagy/cox_galois_Gaussian_periods.pdf
    – Will Jagy
    yesterday


















  • I got to this point. I can not solve the trigonometric part.
    – Rituraj Tripathy
    2 days ago










  • I went back to $w$ and wrote explicitly the product
    – Andrei
    2 days ago










  • I think Step 3 should give $a+b=-1$. Note that $frac{w^{13}-1}{w-1}=1+w+w^2+dots+w^{12} = a+b+1$.
    – gandalf61
    2 days ago












  • Fixed that. I forgot to add and subtract one. I've just added.
    – Andrei
    2 days ago










  • Andrei, it is not entirely necessary to relate $a$ and $b.$ See page 16 in books.google.com/… The method is due to Gauss, modern discussion (but just a few examples) in zakuski.utsa.edu/~jagy/cox_galois_Gaussian_periods.pdf
    – Will Jagy
    yesterday
















I got to this point. I can not solve the trigonometric part.
– Rituraj Tripathy
2 days ago




I got to this point. I can not solve the trigonometric part.
– Rituraj Tripathy
2 days ago












I went back to $w$ and wrote explicitly the product
– Andrei
2 days ago




I went back to $w$ and wrote explicitly the product
– Andrei
2 days ago












I think Step 3 should give $a+b=-1$. Note that $frac{w^{13}-1}{w-1}=1+w+w^2+dots+w^{12} = a+b+1$.
– gandalf61
2 days ago






I think Step 3 should give $a+b=-1$. Note that $frac{w^{13}-1}{w-1}=1+w+w^2+dots+w^{12} = a+b+1$.
– gandalf61
2 days ago














Fixed that. I forgot to add and subtract one. I've just added.
– Andrei
2 days ago




Fixed that. I forgot to add and subtract one. I've just added.
– Andrei
2 days ago












Andrei, it is not entirely necessary to relate $a$ and $b.$ See page 16 in books.google.com/… The method is due to Gauss, modern discussion (but just a few examples) in zakuski.utsa.edu/~jagy/cox_galois_Gaussian_periods.pdf
– Will Jagy
yesterday




Andrei, it is not entirely necessary to relate $a$ and $b.$ See page 16 in books.google.com/… The method is due to Gauss, modern discussion (but just a few examples) in zakuski.utsa.edu/~jagy/cox_galois_Gaussian_periods.pdf
– Will Jagy
yesterday











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$$ a^2 + a = frac{ w^{16} + 2w^{15} + w^{14} + 2w^{13} + 3w^{12} + 3w^{11} + 3w^{10} + 3w^9 + 6w^8 + 3w^7 + 3w^6 + 3w^5 + 3w^4 + 2w^3 + w^2 + 2w + 1}{w^8} $$



This is not impressive without
$$ w^{16} + 2w^{15} + w^{14} + 2w^{13} = w^3+2w^2+w+2. $$ Therefore



$$ a^2 + a = frac{ 3w^{12} + 3w^{11} + 3w^{10} + 3w^9 + 6w^8 + 3w^7 + 3w^6 + 3w^5 + 3w^4 + 3w^3 + 3w^2 + 3w + 3}{w^8} $$



The one coefficient out of line is $6 w^8 / w^8,$ so we need to subtract 3
$$ a^2 + a -3 = frac{ 3w^{12} + 3w^{11} + 3w^{10} + 3w^9 + 3w^8 + 3w^7 + 3w^6 + 3w^5 + 3w^4 + 3w^3 + 3w^2 + 3w + 3}{w^8} $$



$$ a^2 + a -3 = frac{ 3 left( w^{12} + w^{11} + w^{10} + w^9 + w^8 + w^7 + w^6 + w^5 + w^4 + w^3 + w^2 + w + 1 right)}{w^8} $$



and
$$ a^2 + a - 3 = 0 $$






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$$ a^2 + a = frac{ w^{16} + 2w^{15} + w^{14} + 2w^{13} + 3w^{12} + 3w^{11} + 3w^{10} + 3w^9 + 6w^8 + 3w^7 + 3w^6 + 3w^5 + 3w^4 + 2w^3 + w^2 + 2w + 1}{w^8} $$



This is not impressive without
$$ w^{16} + 2w^{15} + w^{14} + 2w^{13} = w^3+2w^2+w+2. $$ Therefore



$$ a^2 + a = frac{ 3w^{12} + 3w^{11} + 3w^{10} + 3w^9 + 6w^8 + 3w^7 + 3w^6 + 3w^5 + 3w^4 + 3w^3 + 3w^2 + 3w + 3}{w^8} $$



The one coefficient out of line is $6 w^8 / w^8,$ so we need to subtract 3
$$ a^2 + a -3 = frac{ 3w^{12} + 3w^{11} + 3w^{10} + 3w^9 + 3w^8 + 3w^7 + 3w^6 + 3w^5 + 3w^4 + 3w^3 + 3w^2 + 3w + 3}{w^8} $$



$$ a^2 + a -3 = frac{ 3 left( w^{12} + w^{11} + w^{10} + w^9 + w^8 + w^7 + w^6 + w^5 + w^4 + w^3 + w^2 + w + 1 right)}{w^8} $$



and
$$ a^2 + a - 3 = 0 $$






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$$ a^2 + a = frac{ w^{16} + 2w^{15} + w^{14} + 2w^{13} + 3w^{12} + 3w^{11} + 3w^{10} + 3w^9 + 6w^8 + 3w^7 + 3w^6 + 3w^5 + 3w^4 + 2w^3 + w^2 + 2w + 1}{w^8} $$



This is not impressive without
$$ w^{16} + 2w^{15} + w^{14} + 2w^{13} = w^3+2w^2+w+2. $$ Therefore



$$ a^2 + a = frac{ 3w^{12} + 3w^{11} + 3w^{10} + 3w^9 + 6w^8 + 3w^7 + 3w^6 + 3w^5 + 3w^4 + 3w^3 + 3w^2 + 3w + 3}{w^8} $$



The one coefficient out of line is $6 w^8 / w^8,$ so we need to subtract 3
$$ a^2 + a -3 = frac{ 3w^{12} + 3w^{11} + 3w^{10} + 3w^9 + 3w^8 + 3w^7 + 3w^6 + 3w^5 + 3w^4 + 3w^3 + 3w^2 + 3w + 3}{w^8} $$



$$ a^2 + a -3 = frac{ 3 left( w^{12} + w^{11} + w^{10} + w^9 + w^8 + w^7 + w^6 + w^5 + w^4 + w^3 + w^2 + w + 1 right)}{w^8} $$



and
$$ a^2 + a - 3 = 0 $$






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$$ a^2 + a = frac{ w^{16} + 2w^{15} + w^{14} + 2w^{13} + 3w^{12} + 3w^{11} + 3w^{10} + 3w^9 + 6w^8 + 3w^7 + 3w^6 + 3w^5 + 3w^4 + 2w^3 + w^2 + 2w + 1}{w^8} $$



This is not impressive without
$$ w^{16} + 2w^{15} + w^{14} + 2w^{13} = w^3+2w^2+w+2. $$ Therefore



$$ a^2 + a = frac{ 3w^{12} + 3w^{11} + 3w^{10} + 3w^9 + 6w^8 + 3w^7 + 3w^6 + 3w^5 + 3w^4 + 3w^3 + 3w^2 + 3w + 3}{w^8} $$



The one coefficient out of line is $6 w^8 / w^8,$ so we need to subtract 3
$$ a^2 + a -3 = frac{ 3w^{12} + 3w^{11} + 3w^{10} + 3w^9 + 3w^8 + 3w^7 + 3w^6 + 3w^5 + 3w^4 + 3w^3 + 3w^2 + 3w + 3}{w^8} $$



$$ a^2 + a -3 = frac{ 3 left( w^{12} + w^{11} + w^{10} + w^9 + w^8 + w^7 + w^6 + w^5 + w^4 + w^3 + w^2 + w + 1 right)}{w^8} $$



and
$$ a^2 + a - 3 = 0 $$







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Elegant solution, but it might be at a higher level than what the question wanted. It would have probably had different tags.
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Elegant solution, but it might be at a higher level than what the question wanted. It would have probably had different tags.
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