$2^n + 1$ is prime $ implies n$ is a power of $2$
I was wondering why I can't do this this way by proof by contradiction of the contrapositive. So I want to prove
$$2^n + 1 quad text{is prime} implies n = 2^k quad text{for some} kin mathbb{Z}.$$
By contrapositive,
$$n neq 2^k quad text{for all} k in mathbb{Z} implies 2^n + 1 quad text{is composite.}$$
Then I want to prove by contradiction:
Suppose $n neq 2^k quad forall kin mathbb{Z}$ and $2^n + 1$ is prime.
Why can't I give one counterexample to prove that this is false (contradiction)?
Since if $n:= 3$ then $2^3 + 1 = 9$ which is composite, hence, $2^n + 1$ being prime (hypothesis) cannot be true, so by proof by contradiction, $2^n +1$ must be composite?
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I was wondering why I can't do this this way by proof by contradiction of the contrapositive. So I want to prove
$$2^n + 1 quad text{is prime} implies n = 2^k quad text{for some} kin mathbb{Z}.$$
By contrapositive,
$$n neq 2^k quad text{for all} k in mathbb{Z} implies 2^n + 1 quad text{is composite.}$$
Then I want to prove by contradiction:
Suppose $n neq 2^k quad forall kin mathbb{Z}$ and $2^n + 1$ is prime.
Why can't I give one counterexample to prove that this is false (contradiction)?
Since if $n:= 3$ then $2^3 + 1 = 9$ which is composite, hence, $2^n + 1$ being prime (hypothesis) cannot be true, so by proof by contradiction, $2^n +1$ must be composite?
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Because you have to prove it for all $k in mathbb{Z}$.
– Math Lover
Aug 15 '17 at 4:18
Strictly speaking you also need $ngt 0$, because $2^0 + 1 = 2$ is prime (but $0$ is not a power of $2$).
– hardmath
Aug 15 '17 at 4:33
1
You want to "prove" that All Nordic women have blonde hair by exhibiting a Chinese lady with black hair?
– Jyrki Lahtonen
Aug 15 '17 at 4:45
@Math Lover I think it should be for all $kinmathbb N$.
– Michael Rozenberg
Aug 15 '17 at 4:53
3
Possible duplicate of Fermat primes relation to $2^n+1$
– Gerry Myerson
Aug 19 '17 at 22:26
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I was wondering why I can't do this this way by proof by contradiction of the contrapositive. So I want to prove
$$2^n + 1 quad text{is prime} implies n = 2^k quad text{for some} kin mathbb{Z}.$$
By contrapositive,
$$n neq 2^k quad text{for all} k in mathbb{Z} implies 2^n + 1 quad text{is composite.}$$
Then I want to prove by contradiction:
Suppose $n neq 2^k quad forall kin mathbb{Z}$ and $2^n + 1$ is prime.
Why can't I give one counterexample to prove that this is false (contradiction)?
Since if $n:= 3$ then $2^3 + 1 = 9$ which is composite, hence, $2^n + 1$ being prime (hypothesis) cannot be true, so by proof by contradiction, $2^n +1$ must be composite?
elementary-number-theory proof-verification prime-numbers fermat-numbers
I was wondering why I can't do this this way by proof by contradiction of the contrapositive. So I want to prove
$$2^n + 1 quad text{is prime} implies n = 2^k quad text{for some} kin mathbb{Z}.$$
By contrapositive,
$$n neq 2^k quad text{for all} k in mathbb{Z} implies 2^n + 1 quad text{is composite.}$$
Then I want to prove by contradiction:
Suppose $n neq 2^k quad forall kin mathbb{Z}$ and $2^n + 1$ is prime.
Why can't I give one counterexample to prove that this is false (contradiction)?
Since if $n:= 3$ then $2^3 + 1 = 9$ which is composite, hence, $2^n + 1$ being prime (hypothesis) cannot be true, so by proof by contradiction, $2^n +1$ must be composite?
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elementary-number-theory proof-verification prime-numbers fermat-numbers
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Because you have to prove it for all $k in mathbb{Z}$.
– Math Lover
Aug 15 '17 at 4:18
Strictly speaking you also need $ngt 0$, because $2^0 + 1 = 2$ is prime (but $0$ is not a power of $2$).
– hardmath
Aug 15 '17 at 4:33
1
You want to "prove" that All Nordic women have blonde hair by exhibiting a Chinese lady with black hair?
– Jyrki Lahtonen
Aug 15 '17 at 4:45
@Math Lover I think it should be for all $kinmathbb N$.
– Michael Rozenberg
Aug 15 '17 at 4:53
3
Possible duplicate of Fermat primes relation to $2^n+1$
– Gerry Myerson
Aug 19 '17 at 22:26
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show 4 more comments
2
Because you have to prove it for all $k in mathbb{Z}$.
– Math Lover
Aug 15 '17 at 4:18
Strictly speaking you also need $ngt 0$, because $2^0 + 1 = 2$ is prime (but $0$ is not a power of $2$).
– hardmath
Aug 15 '17 at 4:33
1
You want to "prove" that All Nordic women have blonde hair by exhibiting a Chinese lady with black hair?
– Jyrki Lahtonen
Aug 15 '17 at 4:45
@Math Lover I think it should be for all $kinmathbb N$.
– Michael Rozenberg
Aug 15 '17 at 4:53
3
Possible duplicate of Fermat primes relation to $2^n+1$
– Gerry Myerson
Aug 19 '17 at 22:26
2
2
Because you have to prove it for all $k in mathbb{Z}$.
– Math Lover
Aug 15 '17 at 4:18
Because you have to prove it for all $k in mathbb{Z}$.
– Math Lover
Aug 15 '17 at 4:18
Strictly speaking you also need $ngt 0$, because $2^0 + 1 = 2$ is prime (but $0$ is not a power of $2$).
– hardmath
Aug 15 '17 at 4:33
Strictly speaking you also need $ngt 0$, because $2^0 + 1 = 2$ is prime (but $0$ is not a power of $2$).
– hardmath
Aug 15 '17 at 4:33
1
1
You want to "prove" that All Nordic women have blonde hair by exhibiting a Chinese lady with black hair?
– Jyrki Lahtonen
Aug 15 '17 at 4:45
You want to "prove" that All Nordic women have blonde hair by exhibiting a Chinese lady with black hair?
– Jyrki Lahtonen
Aug 15 '17 at 4:45
@Math Lover I think it should be for all $kinmathbb N$.
– Michael Rozenberg
Aug 15 '17 at 4:53
@Math Lover I think it should be for all $kinmathbb N$.
– Michael Rozenberg
Aug 15 '17 at 4:53
3
3
Possible duplicate of Fermat primes relation to $2^n+1$
– Gerry Myerson
Aug 19 '17 at 22:26
Possible duplicate of Fermat primes relation to $2^n+1$
– Gerry Myerson
Aug 19 '17 at 22:26
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The question isn't to show that there is one $n$ that is not a power of $2$ with $2^n+1$ composite, it is to show that for every $n$ that is not a power of $2$, $2^n+1$ is composite.
I see; would my contrapositive and then contradiction (or just contrapositive) path lead to anything?
– OneGapLater
Aug 15 '17 at 4:20
Yes, that is indeed the typical route to go about proving this statement.
– Ziryerx
Aug 15 '17 at 5:47
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Suppose there is a odd prime $p|n$. Then $n=pcdot k$ for some natural $k$. Now we have:
$$ 2^{pk}+1 =(2^k+1)(2^{k(p-1)}-2^{k(p-2)}+...-2^k+1)$$
Clearly both factors are > 1 and thus a contradction.
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The question isn't to show that there is one $n$ that is not a power of $2$ with $2^n+1$ composite, it is to show that for every $n$ that is not a power of $2$, $2^n+1$ is composite.
I see; would my contrapositive and then contradiction (or just contrapositive) path lead to anything?
– OneGapLater
Aug 15 '17 at 4:20
Yes, that is indeed the typical route to go about proving this statement.
– Ziryerx
Aug 15 '17 at 5:47
add a comment |
The question isn't to show that there is one $n$ that is not a power of $2$ with $2^n+1$ composite, it is to show that for every $n$ that is not a power of $2$, $2^n+1$ is composite.
I see; would my contrapositive and then contradiction (or just contrapositive) path lead to anything?
– OneGapLater
Aug 15 '17 at 4:20
Yes, that is indeed the typical route to go about proving this statement.
– Ziryerx
Aug 15 '17 at 5:47
add a comment |
The question isn't to show that there is one $n$ that is not a power of $2$ with $2^n+1$ composite, it is to show that for every $n$ that is not a power of $2$, $2^n+1$ is composite.
The question isn't to show that there is one $n$ that is not a power of $2$ with $2^n+1$ composite, it is to show that for every $n$ that is not a power of $2$, $2^n+1$ is composite.
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I see; would my contrapositive and then contradiction (or just contrapositive) path lead to anything?
– OneGapLater
Aug 15 '17 at 4:20
Yes, that is indeed the typical route to go about proving this statement.
– Ziryerx
Aug 15 '17 at 5:47
add a comment |
I see; would my contrapositive and then contradiction (or just contrapositive) path lead to anything?
– OneGapLater
Aug 15 '17 at 4:20
Yes, that is indeed the typical route to go about proving this statement.
– Ziryerx
Aug 15 '17 at 5:47
I see; would my contrapositive and then contradiction (or just contrapositive) path lead to anything?
– OneGapLater
Aug 15 '17 at 4:20
I see; would my contrapositive and then contradiction (or just contrapositive) path lead to anything?
– OneGapLater
Aug 15 '17 at 4:20
Yes, that is indeed the typical route to go about proving this statement.
– Ziryerx
Aug 15 '17 at 5:47
Yes, that is indeed the typical route to go about proving this statement.
– Ziryerx
Aug 15 '17 at 5:47
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Suppose there is a odd prime $p|n$. Then $n=pcdot k$ for some natural $k$. Now we have:
$$ 2^{pk}+1 =(2^k+1)(2^{k(p-1)}-2^{k(p-2)}+...-2^k+1)$$
Clearly both factors are > 1 and thus a contradction.
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Suppose there is a odd prime $p|n$. Then $n=pcdot k$ for some natural $k$. Now we have:
$$ 2^{pk}+1 =(2^k+1)(2^{k(p-1)}-2^{k(p-2)}+...-2^k+1)$$
Clearly both factors are > 1 and thus a contradction.
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Suppose there is a odd prime $p|n$. Then $n=pcdot k$ for some natural $k$. Now we have:
$$ 2^{pk}+1 =(2^k+1)(2^{k(p-1)}-2^{k(p-2)}+...-2^k+1)$$
Clearly both factors are > 1 and thus a contradction.
Suppose there is a odd prime $p|n$. Then $n=pcdot k$ for some natural $k$. Now we have:
$$ 2^{pk}+1 =(2^k+1)(2^{k(p-1)}-2^{k(p-2)}+...-2^k+1)$$
Clearly both factors are > 1 and thus a contradction.
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Because you have to prove it for all $k in mathbb{Z}$.
– Math Lover
Aug 15 '17 at 4:18
Strictly speaking you also need $ngt 0$, because $2^0 + 1 = 2$ is prime (but $0$ is not a power of $2$).
– hardmath
Aug 15 '17 at 4:33
1
You want to "prove" that All Nordic women have blonde hair by exhibiting a Chinese lady with black hair?
– Jyrki Lahtonen
Aug 15 '17 at 4:45
@Math Lover I think it should be for all $kinmathbb N$.
– Michael Rozenberg
Aug 15 '17 at 4:53
3
Possible duplicate of Fermat primes relation to $2^n+1$
– Gerry Myerson
Aug 19 '17 at 22:26