Saddle Point Maximization
My question is that in general, is there a case where saddle point be the global max of a function?
I am solving a game theory question which the optimal solution is the saddle point. Can I conclude that the optimal solution is at the boundaries?
optimization
New contributor
add a comment |
My question is that in general, is there a case where saddle point be the global max of a function?
I am solving a game theory question which the optimal solution is the saddle point. Can I conclude that the optimal solution is at the boundaries?
optimization
New contributor
I thought saddles were by definition neither max nor min.
– Randall
Jan 4 at 18:32
What game theory question?
– cgiovanardi
Jan 5 at 0:02
add a comment |
My question is that in general, is there a case where saddle point be the global max of a function?
I am solving a game theory question which the optimal solution is the saddle point. Can I conclude that the optimal solution is at the boundaries?
optimization
New contributor
My question is that in general, is there a case where saddle point be the global max of a function?
I am solving a game theory question which the optimal solution is the saddle point. Can I conclude that the optimal solution is at the boundaries?
optimization
optimization
New contributor
New contributor
New contributor
asked Jan 4 at 18:30
user3425989user3425989
11
11
New contributor
New contributor
I thought saddles were by definition neither max nor min.
– Randall
Jan 4 at 18:32
What game theory question?
– cgiovanardi
Jan 5 at 0:02
add a comment |
I thought saddles were by definition neither max nor min.
– Randall
Jan 4 at 18:32
What game theory question?
– cgiovanardi
Jan 5 at 0:02
I thought saddles were by definition neither max nor min.
– Randall
Jan 4 at 18:32
I thought saddles were by definition neither max nor min.
– Randall
Jan 4 at 18:32
What game theory question?
– cgiovanardi
Jan 5 at 0:02
What game theory question?
– cgiovanardi
Jan 5 at 0:02
add a comment |
2 Answers
2
active
oldest
votes
By definition, a saddle point is
- a local min in some directions and
- a local max in other directions at the same time.
Since it is a local min in at least one direction, there are more optimal points for maximization. Ditto minimization from the other directions...
Thanks, So can we say that is is only boundary solutions?
– user3425989
Jan 4 at 18:40
@user3425989 if no relative extrema lie inside the region, then all candidates for the optimal solutions will come from the boundary.
– gt6989b
Jan 6 at 5:29
add a comment |
It is a common misunderstanding in optimization how a saddle point may be the optimal point. The saddle point that is the optimal solution is the saddle point for the Lagrange function $L(x,u,v)$, not the saddle point for the objective function itself.
add a comment |
Your Answer
StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function () {
return StackExchange.using("mathjaxEditing", function () {
StackExchange.MarkdownEditor.creationCallbacks.add(function (editor, postfix) {
StackExchange.mathjaxEditing.prepareWmdForMathJax(editor, postfix, [["$", "$"], ["\\(","\\)"]]);
});
});
}, "mathjax-editing");
StackExchange.ready(function() {
var channelOptions = {
tags: "".split(" "),
id: "69"
};
initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);
StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function() {
// Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled) {
StackExchange.using("snippets", function() {
createEditor();
});
}
else {
createEditor();
}
});
function createEditor() {
StackExchange.prepareEditor({
heartbeatType: 'answer',
autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
convertImagesToLinks: true,
noModals: true,
showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
reputationToPostImages: 10,
bindNavPrevention: true,
postfix: "",
imageUploader: {
brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
allowUrls: true
},
noCode: true, onDemand: true,
discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
});
}
});
user3425989 is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f3061945%2fsaddle-point-maximization%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
2 Answers
2
active
oldest
votes
2 Answers
2
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
By definition, a saddle point is
- a local min in some directions and
- a local max in other directions at the same time.
Since it is a local min in at least one direction, there are more optimal points for maximization. Ditto minimization from the other directions...
Thanks, So can we say that is is only boundary solutions?
– user3425989
Jan 4 at 18:40
@user3425989 if no relative extrema lie inside the region, then all candidates for the optimal solutions will come from the boundary.
– gt6989b
Jan 6 at 5:29
add a comment |
By definition, a saddle point is
- a local min in some directions and
- a local max in other directions at the same time.
Since it is a local min in at least one direction, there are more optimal points for maximization. Ditto minimization from the other directions...
Thanks, So can we say that is is only boundary solutions?
– user3425989
Jan 4 at 18:40
@user3425989 if no relative extrema lie inside the region, then all candidates for the optimal solutions will come from the boundary.
– gt6989b
Jan 6 at 5:29
add a comment |
By definition, a saddle point is
- a local min in some directions and
- a local max in other directions at the same time.
Since it is a local min in at least one direction, there are more optimal points for maximization. Ditto minimization from the other directions...
By definition, a saddle point is
- a local min in some directions and
- a local max in other directions at the same time.
Since it is a local min in at least one direction, there are more optimal points for maximization. Ditto minimization from the other directions...
answered Jan 4 at 18:32
gt6989bgt6989b
33.3k22452
33.3k22452
Thanks, So can we say that is is only boundary solutions?
– user3425989
Jan 4 at 18:40
@user3425989 if no relative extrema lie inside the region, then all candidates for the optimal solutions will come from the boundary.
– gt6989b
Jan 6 at 5:29
add a comment |
Thanks, So can we say that is is only boundary solutions?
– user3425989
Jan 4 at 18:40
@user3425989 if no relative extrema lie inside the region, then all candidates for the optimal solutions will come from the boundary.
– gt6989b
Jan 6 at 5:29
Thanks, So can we say that is is only boundary solutions?
– user3425989
Jan 4 at 18:40
Thanks, So can we say that is is only boundary solutions?
– user3425989
Jan 4 at 18:40
@user3425989 if no relative extrema lie inside the region, then all candidates for the optimal solutions will come from the boundary.
– gt6989b
Jan 6 at 5:29
@user3425989 if no relative extrema lie inside the region, then all candidates for the optimal solutions will come from the boundary.
– gt6989b
Jan 6 at 5:29
add a comment |
It is a common misunderstanding in optimization how a saddle point may be the optimal point. The saddle point that is the optimal solution is the saddle point for the Lagrange function $L(x,u,v)$, not the saddle point for the objective function itself.
add a comment |
It is a common misunderstanding in optimization how a saddle point may be the optimal point. The saddle point that is the optimal solution is the saddle point for the Lagrange function $L(x,u,v)$, not the saddle point for the objective function itself.
add a comment |
It is a common misunderstanding in optimization how a saddle point may be the optimal point. The saddle point that is the optimal solution is the saddle point for the Lagrange function $L(x,u,v)$, not the saddle point for the objective function itself.
It is a common misunderstanding in optimization how a saddle point may be the optimal point. The saddle point that is the optimal solution is the saddle point for the Lagrange function $L(x,u,v)$, not the saddle point for the objective function itself.
answered Jan 4 at 18:39
A.Γ.A.Γ.
22.6k32656
22.6k32656
add a comment |
add a comment |
user3425989 is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.
user3425989 is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.
user3425989 is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.
user3425989 is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.
Thanks for contributing an answer to Mathematics Stack Exchange!
- Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!
But avoid …
- Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.
- Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.
Use MathJax to format equations. MathJax reference.
To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.
Some of your past answers have not been well-received, and you're in danger of being blocked from answering.
Please pay close attention to the following guidance:
- Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!
But avoid …
- Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.
- Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.
To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f3061945%2fsaddle-point-maximization%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
I thought saddles were by definition neither max nor min.
– Randall
Jan 4 at 18:32
What game theory question?
– cgiovanardi
Jan 5 at 0:02