Tangent plane to $x^2+y^2+z^2=50$ at $(3,4,5)$
Prove that the tangent plane to $x^2+y^2+z^2=50$ at $(3,4,5)$ is $3x+4y+5z=50$
My workings are shown below but get the answer wrong completly, have I made a simple mistake is my method flawed.
So if the surface is said to be $f(x,y,z)$ then
$$frac{partial f}{partial x}=2xqquad frac{partial f}{partial y}=2y$$
Therefore $f_x(3,4)=6$ and $f_y(3,4)=8$
Now using the
$$z=f(a,b)+(x-a)f_x(a,b)+(y-b)f_y(a,b)$$
I get a plane with the equation $$z=5+(x-3)(6)+(y-4)(8)$$
$$z=6x+8y-45$$
Any help on how to get the correct answer would be apprciated.
partial-derivative surfaces plane-geometry
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Prove that the tangent plane to $x^2+y^2+z^2=50$ at $(3,4,5)$ is $3x+4y+5z=50$
My workings are shown below but get the answer wrong completly, have I made a simple mistake is my method flawed.
So if the surface is said to be $f(x,y,z)$ then
$$frac{partial f}{partial x}=2xqquad frac{partial f}{partial y}=2y$$
Therefore $f_x(3,4)=6$ and $f_y(3,4)=8$
Now using the
$$z=f(a,b)+(x-a)f_x(a,b)+(y-b)f_y(a,b)$$
I get a plane with the equation $$z=5+(x-3)(6)+(y-4)(8)$$
$$z=6x+8y-45$$
Any help on how to get the correct answer would be apprciated.
partial-derivative surfaces plane-geometry
I think you want $f(x,y)=sqrt{50-x^2-y^2}$ for your method to work.
– Lubin
Jan 3 at 21:39
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Prove that the tangent plane to $x^2+y^2+z^2=50$ at $(3,4,5)$ is $3x+4y+5z=50$
My workings are shown below but get the answer wrong completly, have I made a simple mistake is my method flawed.
So if the surface is said to be $f(x,y,z)$ then
$$frac{partial f}{partial x}=2xqquad frac{partial f}{partial y}=2y$$
Therefore $f_x(3,4)=6$ and $f_y(3,4)=8$
Now using the
$$z=f(a,b)+(x-a)f_x(a,b)+(y-b)f_y(a,b)$$
I get a plane with the equation $$z=5+(x-3)(6)+(y-4)(8)$$
$$z=6x+8y-45$$
Any help on how to get the correct answer would be apprciated.
partial-derivative surfaces plane-geometry
Prove that the tangent plane to $x^2+y^2+z^2=50$ at $(3,4,5)$ is $3x+4y+5z=50$
My workings are shown below but get the answer wrong completly, have I made a simple mistake is my method flawed.
So if the surface is said to be $f(x,y,z)$ then
$$frac{partial f}{partial x}=2xqquad frac{partial f}{partial y}=2y$$
Therefore $f_x(3,4)=6$ and $f_y(3,4)=8$
Now using the
$$z=f(a,b)+(x-a)f_x(a,b)+(y-b)f_y(a,b)$$
I get a plane with the equation $$z=5+(x-3)(6)+(y-4)(8)$$
$$z=6x+8y-45$$
Any help on how to get the correct answer would be apprciated.
partial-derivative surfaces plane-geometry
partial-derivative surfaces plane-geometry
edited Jan 3 at 22:26
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asked Jan 3 at 21:32
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I think you want $f(x,y)=sqrt{50-x^2-y^2}$ for your method to work.
– Lubin
Jan 3 at 21:39
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I think you want $f(x,y)=sqrt{50-x^2-y^2}$ for your method to work.
– Lubin
Jan 3 at 21:39
I think you want $f(x,y)=sqrt{50-x^2-y^2}$ for your method to work.
– Lubin
Jan 3 at 21:39
I think you want $f(x,y)=sqrt{50-x^2-y^2}$ for your method to work.
– Lubin
Jan 3 at 21:39
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A few comments:
- The formula you are referring to is for surfaces which are the graphs of a function $f(x,y)$, not $f(x,y,z)$
- The given surface is a sphere of radius $sqrt{50}$ centered at the origin. A sphere cannot be represented as a function $f(x,y)$
However, hope is not lost. The given point $(3,4,5)$ lies on the upper hemisphere, and a hemisphere is the graph of a function $z=f(x,y)$. What function is it? Well in this case we have
$$z^{2}=50-x^{2}-y^{2}$$
so the top hemisphere is given by
$$z=sqrt{50-x^{2}-y^{2}}=(50-x^{2}-y^{2})^{1/2}$$
This is our $f(x,y)$. I'll point out that the lower hemisphere is given by $-f(x,y)$. Now, with this $f$, we have
$$frac{partial f}{partial x}=frac{1}{2}(50-x^{2}-y^{2})^{-1/2}cdot(-2x)$$
and
$$frac{partial f}{partial y}=frac{1}{2}(50-x^{2}-y^{2})^{-1/2}cdot(-2y)$$
Plugging in $x=3,y=4$ we have
$$f_{x}(3,4)=-frac{3}{5}$$
and
$$f_{y}(3,4)=-frac{4}{5}$$
Since $f(3,4)=5$, the tangent plane has equation
$$z=5-frac{3}{5}(x-3)-frac{4}{5}(y-4)$$
which, after some algebra, becomes
$$3x+4y+5z=50$$
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$f(x,y,z)=x^2+y^2+z^2-50=0;$
Normal vector to surface $f(x,y,z)=0$ is given by
$vec n= nabla f(x,y,z)=(f_x,f_y,f_z)=(2x,2y,2z)$
Equation.of tangent plane:
$vec n cdot (vec r -vec r_0)=0$;
With $vec n= 2(3,4,5)$ and $vec r_0=(3,4,5)$:
$2(3,4,5)cdot ((x,y,z)-(3,4,5))=0;$
$3x+4y+5z -9-16-25=0;$
$3x+4y+5z =50.$
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In order to calculate the tangent plane at $P = (3,4,5)$, we can consider the parametrization:
begin{align*}
varphi(x,y) = left(x,y,sqrt{50 - x^{2} - y^{2}}right)
end{align*}
Consequently, the tangent plane $pi$ at the given point can be described by
begin{align*}
(x,y,z) = P + alphavarphi_{x}(3,4) + betavarphi_{y}(3,4)
end{align*}
where $(alpha,beta)inmathbb{R}^{2}$.
add a comment |
Why not forget Calculus and look geometrically?
Having observed that the point $P=(3,4,5)$ is indeed on the sphere, one sees that the segment $overline{Bbb OP}$ is a radius, where $Bbb O$ is the origin, center of the sphere. Now certainly any radius is perpendicular to the tangent plane at the point in question, so that the vector $(3,4,5)$ is orthogonal to the plane, and thus the equation must be $3X+4Y+5Z=c$, for an appropriate $c$, which you find to be $c=50$, in order to guarantee that $P$ be on the plane.
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A few comments:
- The formula you are referring to is for surfaces which are the graphs of a function $f(x,y)$, not $f(x,y,z)$
- The given surface is a sphere of radius $sqrt{50}$ centered at the origin. A sphere cannot be represented as a function $f(x,y)$
However, hope is not lost. The given point $(3,4,5)$ lies on the upper hemisphere, and a hemisphere is the graph of a function $z=f(x,y)$. What function is it? Well in this case we have
$$z^{2}=50-x^{2}-y^{2}$$
so the top hemisphere is given by
$$z=sqrt{50-x^{2}-y^{2}}=(50-x^{2}-y^{2})^{1/2}$$
This is our $f(x,y)$. I'll point out that the lower hemisphere is given by $-f(x,y)$. Now, with this $f$, we have
$$frac{partial f}{partial x}=frac{1}{2}(50-x^{2}-y^{2})^{-1/2}cdot(-2x)$$
and
$$frac{partial f}{partial y}=frac{1}{2}(50-x^{2}-y^{2})^{-1/2}cdot(-2y)$$
Plugging in $x=3,y=4$ we have
$$f_{x}(3,4)=-frac{3}{5}$$
and
$$f_{y}(3,4)=-frac{4}{5}$$
Since $f(3,4)=5$, the tangent plane has equation
$$z=5-frac{3}{5}(x-3)-frac{4}{5}(y-4)$$
which, after some algebra, becomes
$$3x+4y+5z=50$$
add a comment |
A few comments:
- The formula you are referring to is for surfaces which are the graphs of a function $f(x,y)$, not $f(x,y,z)$
- The given surface is a sphere of radius $sqrt{50}$ centered at the origin. A sphere cannot be represented as a function $f(x,y)$
However, hope is not lost. The given point $(3,4,5)$ lies on the upper hemisphere, and a hemisphere is the graph of a function $z=f(x,y)$. What function is it? Well in this case we have
$$z^{2}=50-x^{2}-y^{2}$$
so the top hemisphere is given by
$$z=sqrt{50-x^{2}-y^{2}}=(50-x^{2}-y^{2})^{1/2}$$
This is our $f(x,y)$. I'll point out that the lower hemisphere is given by $-f(x,y)$. Now, with this $f$, we have
$$frac{partial f}{partial x}=frac{1}{2}(50-x^{2}-y^{2})^{-1/2}cdot(-2x)$$
and
$$frac{partial f}{partial y}=frac{1}{2}(50-x^{2}-y^{2})^{-1/2}cdot(-2y)$$
Plugging in $x=3,y=4$ we have
$$f_{x}(3,4)=-frac{3}{5}$$
and
$$f_{y}(3,4)=-frac{4}{5}$$
Since $f(3,4)=5$, the tangent plane has equation
$$z=5-frac{3}{5}(x-3)-frac{4}{5}(y-4)$$
which, after some algebra, becomes
$$3x+4y+5z=50$$
add a comment |
A few comments:
- The formula you are referring to is for surfaces which are the graphs of a function $f(x,y)$, not $f(x,y,z)$
- The given surface is a sphere of radius $sqrt{50}$ centered at the origin. A sphere cannot be represented as a function $f(x,y)$
However, hope is not lost. The given point $(3,4,5)$ lies on the upper hemisphere, and a hemisphere is the graph of a function $z=f(x,y)$. What function is it? Well in this case we have
$$z^{2}=50-x^{2}-y^{2}$$
so the top hemisphere is given by
$$z=sqrt{50-x^{2}-y^{2}}=(50-x^{2}-y^{2})^{1/2}$$
This is our $f(x,y)$. I'll point out that the lower hemisphere is given by $-f(x,y)$. Now, with this $f$, we have
$$frac{partial f}{partial x}=frac{1}{2}(50-x^{2}-y^{2})^{-1/2}cdot(-2x)$$
and
$$frac{partial f}{partial y}=frac{1}{2}(50-x^{2}-y^{2})^{-1/2}cdot(-2y)$$
Plugging in $x=3,y=4$ we have
$$f_{x}(3,4)=-frac{3}{5}$$
and
$$f_{y}(3,4)=-frac{4}{5}$$
Since $f(3,4)=5$, the tangent plane has equation
$$z=5-frac{3}{5}(x-3)-frac{4}{5}(y-4)$$
which, after some algebra, becomes
$$3x+4y+5z=50$$
A few comments:
- The formula you are referring to is for surfaces which are the graphs of a function $f(x,y)$, not $f(x,y,z)$
- The given surface is a sphere of radius $sqrt{50}$ centered at the origin. A sphere cannot be represented as a function $f(x,y)$
However, hope is not lost. The given point $(3,4,5)$ lies on the upper hemisphere, and a hemisphere is the graph of a function $z=f(x,y)$. What function is it? Well in this case we have
$$z^{2}=50-x^{2}-y^{2}$$
so the top hemisphere is given by
$$z=sqrt{50-x^{2}-y^{2}}=(50-x^{2}-y^{2})^{1/2}$$
This is our $f(x,y)$. I'll point out that the lower hemisphere is given by $-f(x,y)$. Now, with this $f$, we have
$$frac{partial f}{partial x}=frac{1}{2}(50-x^{2}-y^{2})^{-1/2}cdot(-2x)$$
and
$$frac{partial f}{partial y}=frac{1}{2}(50-x^{2}-y^{2})^{-1/2}cdot(-2y)$$
Plugging in $x=3,y=4$ we have
$$f_{x}(3,4)=-frac{3}{5}$$
and
$$f_{y}(3,4)=-frac{4}{5}$$
Since $f(3,4)=5$, the tangent plane has equation
$$z=5-frac{3}{5}(x-3)-frac{4}{5}(y-4)$$
which, after some algebra, becomes
$$3x+4y+5z=50$$
answered Jan 3 at 21:46
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$f(x,y,z)=x^2+y^2+z^2-50=0;$
Normal vector to surface $f(x,y,z)=0$ is given by
$vec n= nabla f(x,y,z)=(f_x,f_y,f_z)=(2x,2y,2z)$
Equation.of tangent plane:
$vec n cdot (vec r -vec r_0)=0$;
With $vec n= 2(3,4,5)$ and $vec r_0=(3,4,5)$:
$2(3,4,5)cdot ((x,y,z)-(3,4,5))=0;$
$3x+4y+5z -9-16-25=0;$
$3x+4y+5z =50.$
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$f(x,y,z)=x^2+y^2+z^2-50=0;$
Normal vector to surface $f(x,y,z)=0$ is given by
$vec n= nabla f(x,y,z)=(f_x,f_y,f_z)=(2x,2y,2z)$
Equation.of tangent plane:
$vec n cdot (vec r -vec r_0)=0$;
With $vec n= 2(3,4,5)$ and $vec r_0=(3,4,5)$:
$2(3,4,5)cdot ((x,y,z)-(3,4,5))=0;$
$3x+4y+5z -9-16-25=0;$
$3x+4y+5z =50.$
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$f(x,y,z)=x^2+y^2+z^2-50=0;$
Normal vector to surface $f(x,y,z)=0$ is given by
$vec n= nabla f(x,y,z)=(f_x,f_y,f_z)=(2x,2y,2z)$
Equation.of tangent plane:
$vec n cdot (vec r -vec r_0)=0$;
With $vec n= 2(3,4,5)$ and $vec r_0=(3,4,5)$:
$2(3,4,5)cdot ((x,y,z)-(3,4,5))=0;$
$3x+4y+5z -9-16-25=0;$
$3x+4y+5z =50.$
$f(x,y,z)=x^2+y^2+z^2-50=0;$
Normal vector to surface $f(x,y,z)=0$ is given by
$vec n= nabla f(x,y,z)=(f_x,f_y,f_z)=(2x,2y,2z)$
Equation.of tangent plane:
$vec n cdot (vec r -vec r_0)=0$;
With $vec n= 2(3,4,5)$ and $vec r_0=(3,4,5)$:
$2(3,4,5)cdot ((x,y,z)-(3,4,5))=0;$
$3x+4y+5z -9-16-25=0;$
$3x+4y+5z =50.$
edited Jan 3 at 22:13
answered Jan 3 at 22:07
Peter Szilas
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In order to calculate the tangent plane at $P = (3,4,5)$, we can consider the parametrization:
begin{align*}
varphi(x,y) = left(x,y,sqrt{50 - x^{2} - y^{2}}right)
end{align*}
Consequently, the tangent plane $pi$ at the given point can be described by
begin{align*}
(x,y,z) = P + alphavarphi_{x}(3,4) + betavarphi_{y}(3,4)
end{align*}
where $(alpha,beta)inmathbb{R}^{2}$.
add a comment |
In order to calculate the tangent plane at $P = (3,4,5)$, we can consider the parametrization:
begin{align*}
varphi(x,y) = left(x,y,sqrt{50 - x^{2} - y^{2}}right)
end{align*}
Consequently, the tangent plane $pi$ at the given point can be described by
begin{align*}
(x,y,z) = P + alphavarphi_{x}(3,4) + betavarphi_{y}(3,4)
end{align*}
where $(alpha,beta)inmathbb{R}^{2}$.
add a comment |
In order to calculate the tangent plane at $P = (3,4,5)$, we can consider the parametrization:
begin{align*}
varphi(x,y) = left(x,y,sqrt{50 - x^{2} - y^{2}}right)
end{align*}
Consequently, the tangent plane $pi$ at the given point can be described by
begin{align*}
(x,y,z) = P + alphavarphi_{x}(3,4) + betavarphi_{y}(3,4)
end{align*}
where $(alpha,beta)inmathbb{R}^{2}$.
In order to calculate the tangent plane at $P = (3,4,5)$, we can consider the parametrization:
begin{align*}
varphi(x,y) = left(x,y,sqrt{50 - x^{2} - y^{2}}right)
end{align*}
Consequently, the tangent plane $pi$ at the given point can be described by
begin{align*}
(x,y,z) = P + alphavarphi_{x}(3,4) + betavarphi_{y}(3,4)
end{align*}
where $(alpha,beta)inmathbb{R}^{2}$.
edited Jan 4 at 0:26
answered Jan 3 at 21:42
APC89
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Why not forget Calculus and look geometrically?
Having observed that the point $P=(3,4,5)$ is indeed on the sphere, one sees that the segment $overline{Bbb OP}$ is a radius, where $Bbb O$ is the origin, center of the sphere. Now certainly any radius is perpendicular to the tangent plane at the point in question, so that the vector $(3,4,5)$ is orthogonal to the plane, and thus the equation must be $3X+4Y+5Z=c$, for an appropriate $c$, which you find to be $c=50$, in order to guarantee that $P$ be on the plane.
add a comment |
Why not forget Calculus and look geometrically?
Having observed that the point $P=(3,4,5)$ is indeed on the sphere, one sees that the segment $overline{Bbb OP}$ is a radius, where $Bbb O$ is the origin, center of the sphere. Now certainly any radius is perpendicular to the tangent plane at the point in question, so that the vector $(3,4,5)$ is orthogonal to the plane, and thus the equation must be $3X+4Y+5Z=c$, for an appropriate $c$, which you find to be $c=50$, in order to guarantee that $P$ be on the plane.
add a comment |
Why not forget Calculus and look geometrically?
Having observed that the point $P=(3,4,5)$ is indeed on the sphere, one sees that the segment $overline{Bbb OP}$ is a radius, where $Bbb O$ is the origin, center of the sphere. Now certainly any radius is perpendicular to the tangent plane at the point in question, so that the vector $(3,4,5)$ is orthogonal to the plane, and thus the equation must be $3X+4Y+5Z=c$, for an appropriate $c$, which you find to be $c=50$, in order to guarantee that $P$ be on the plane.
Why not forget Calculus and look geometrically?
Having observed that the point $P=(3,4,5)$ is indeed on the sphere, one sees that the segment $overline{Bbb OP}$ is a radius, where $Bbb O$ is the origin, center of the sphere. Now certainly any radius is perpendicular to the tangent plane at the point in question, so that the vector $(3,4,5)$ is orthogonal to the plane, and thus the equation must be $3X+4Y+5Z=c$, for an appropriate $c$, which you find to be $c=50$, in order to guarantee that $P$ be on the plane.
answered Jan 4 at 1:00
Lubin
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I think you want $f(x,y)=sqrt{50-x^2-y^2}$ for your method to work.
– Lubin
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