Inviting 5 friends out of 11 to dinner, with restriction












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I'm revising for finals and I have come across this following question:




a) A woman has 11 close friends. Find the number of ways she can invite 5 of them to dinner.



b) Repeat a) but 2 of the friends are married and will not attend separately.




For a) I got ${11 choose 5} = frac{11!}{(11-5)! cdot 5!} = 462$.



I'm completely lost on b). I tried $n-2$ (minus two friends that are married) and then:
${9 choose 5} = frac{9!}{(9-5)! cdot 5!} = 126$, but I'm pretty sure this is wrong,



Could someone explain b) to me?



Thanks in advance!










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    I'm revising for finals and I have come across this following question:




    a) A woman has 11 close friends. Find the number of ways she can invite 5 of them to dinner.



    b) Repeat a) but 2 of the friends are married and will not attend separately.




    For a) I got ${11 choose 5} = frac{11!}{(11-5)! cdot 5!} = 462$.



    I'm completely lost on b). I tried $n-2$ (minus two friends that are married) and then:
    ${9 choose 5} = frac{9!}{(9-5)! cdot 5!} = 126$, but I'm pretty sure this is wrong,



    Could someone explain b) to me?



    Thanks in advance!










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      I'm revising for finals and I have come across this following question:




      a) A woman has 11 close friends. Find the number of ways she can invite 5 of them to dinner.



      b) Repeat a) but 2 of the friends are married and will not attend separately.




      For a) I got ${11 choose 5} = frac{11!}{(11-5)! cdot 5!} = 462$.



      I'm completely lost on b). I tried $n-2$ (minus two friends that are married) and then:
      ${9 choose 5} = frac{9!}{(9-5)! cdot 5!} = 126$, but I'm pretty sure this is wrong,



      Could someone explain b) to me?



      Thanks in advance!










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      I'm revising for finals and I have come across this following question:




      a) A woman has 11 close friends. Find the number of ways she can invite 5 of them to dinner.



      b) Repeat a) but 2 of the friends are married and will not attend separately.




      For a) I got ${11 choose 5} = frac{11!}{(11-5)! cdot 5!} = 462$.



      I'm completely lost on b). I tried $n-2$ (minus two friends that are married) and then:
      ${9 choose 5} = frac{9!}{(9-5)! cdot 5!} = 126$, but I'm pretty sure this is wrong,



      Could someone explain b) to me?



      Thanks in advance!







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          Hint: For (b), try subtracting from your answer to (a) all combinations of $5$ people that include exactly one of the two married friends.






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          • 10!(5!x5!)=252 462-252=210. I get it Thanks! :)
            – Xabi
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          for part b,



          the woman has 2 choices , either to invite the couple or not invite them ,



          CASE1: she invites them



          then she has to choose 3 friends out of 9 (2 out of 11 are already chosen), which she can do in ${9 choose 3}$ ways



          CASE2: when she doesnt invites the couple



          then she has to choose 5 friends out of 9(2out of 11 are not to be chosen), which she can do in ${9 choose 5}$ ways






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            Hint: For (b), try subtracting from your answer to (a) all combinations of $5$ people that include exactly one of the two married friends.






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            • 10!(5!x5!)=252 462-252=210. I get it Thanks! :)
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            Hint: For (b), try subtracting from your answer to (a) all combinations of $5$ people that include exactly one of the two married friends.






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            Hint: For (b), try subtracting from your answer to (a) all combinations of $5$ people that include exactly one of the two married friends.






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            • 10!(5!x5!)=252 462-252=210. I get it Thanks! :)
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            • 10!(5!x5!)=252 462-252=210. I get it Thanks! :)
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            10!(5!x5!)=252 462-252=210. I get it Thanks! :)
            – Xabi
            Apr 22 '12 at 15:07




            10!(5!x5!)=252 462-252=210. I get it Thanks! :)
            – Xabi
            Apr 22 '12 at 15:07











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            for part b,



            the woman has 2 choices , either to invite the couple or not invite them ,



            CASE1: she invites them



            then she has to choose 3 friends out of 9 (2 out of 11 are already chosen), which she can do in ${9 choose 3}$ ways



            CASE2: when she doesnt invites the couple



            then she has to choose 5 friends out of 9(2out of 11 are not to be chosen), which she can do in ${9 choose 5}$ ways






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              for part b,



              the woman has 2 choices , either to invite the couple or not invite them ,



              CASE1: she invites them



              then she has to choose 3 friends out of 9 (2 out of 11 are already chosen), which she can do in ${9 choose 3}$ ways



              CASE2: when she doesnt invites the couple



              then she has to choose 5 friends out of 9(2out of 11 are not to be chosen), which she can do in ${9 choose 5}$ ways






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                for part b,



                the woman has 2 choices , either to invite the couple or not invite them ,



                CASE1: she invites them



                then she has to choose 3 friends out of 9 (2 out of 11 are already chosen), which she can do in ${9 choose 3}$ ways



                CASE2: when she doesnt invites the couple



                then she has to choose 5 friends out of 9(2out of 11 are not to be chosen), which she can do in ${9 choose 5}$ ways






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                for part b,



                the woman has 2 choices , either to invite the couple or not invite them ,



                CASE1: she invites them



                then she has to choose 3 friends out of 9 (2 out of 11 are already chosen), which she can do in ${9 choose 3}$ ways



                CASE2: when she doesnt invites the couple



                then she has to choose 5 friends out of 9(2out of 11 are not to be chosen), which she can do in ${9 choose 5}$ ways







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