Prove $ frac{a^2}{b + c} + frac{b^2}{c + a} + frac{c^2}{a + b} + frac{36}{a + b + c} geq 20 $












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Show that if $a,b,c > 0$, such that $ab + bc + ca = 1$, then the following inequality holds:



$$ frac{a^2}{b + c} + frac{b^2}{c + a} + frac{c^2}{a + b} + frac{36}{a + b + c} geq 20 $$



What I have tried is firstly using the inequality:



$frac{x^2}{a} + frac{y^2}{b} geq frac{(x + y)^2}{a + b}$, for any $x, y$ and any $a,b > 0$.



Using this inequality we obtain $frac{a^2}{b + c} + frac{b^2}{c + a} + frac{c^2}{a + b} geq frac{a + b + c}{2}$, and then we have:
$$ frac{a^2}{b + c} + frac{b^2}{c + a} + frac{c^2}{a + b} + frac{36}{a + b + c} geq frac{a + b + c}{2} + frac{36}{a + b + c} = frac{(a + b + c)^2 + 72)}{2(a + b + c)} $$.
Using $ab + bc + ca = 1$, we would then have to prove that:
$$a^2 + b^2 + c^2 + 74 - 40(a + b + c) geq 0 $$ and then I tried replacing in this inequality $c = frac{1 - ab}{a + b}$, but I didn't get anything nice.



I also tried rewriting the lhs:
$$frac{a^2}{b + c} = frac{a^2(ab + bc + ca)}{b + c} = a^3 + frac{a^2bc}{b + c}$$
And this would result in: $a^3 + b^3 + c^3 + abc(frac{a}{b + c} + frac{b}{c + a} + frac{c}{a + b}) + frac{36}{a + b + c} geq 20$, but I didn't know how to continue from here.



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Show that if $a,b,c > 0$, such that $ab + bc + ca = 1$, then the following inequality holds:



$$ frac{a^2}{b + c} + frac{b^2}{c + a} + frac{c^2}{a + b} + frac{36}{a + b + c} geq 20 $$



What I have tried is firstly using the inequality:



$frac{x^2}{a} + frac{y^2}{b} geq frac{(x + y)^2}{a + b}$, for any $x, y$ and any $a,b > 0$.



Using this inequality we obtain $frac{a^2}{b + c} + frac{b^2}{c + a} + frac{c^2}{a + b} geq frac{a + b + c}{2}$, and then we have:
$$ frac{a^2}{b + c} + frac{b^2}{c + a} + frac{c^2}{a + b} + frac{36}{a + b + c} geq frac{a + b + c}{2} + frac{36}{a + b + c} = frac{(a + b + c)^2 + 72)}{2(a + b + c)} $$.
Using $ab + bc + ca = 1$, we would then have to prove that:
$$a^2 + b^2 + c^2 + 74 - 40(a + b + c) geq 0 $$ and then I tried replacing in this inequality $c = frac{1 - ab}{a + b}$, but I didn't get anything nice.



I also tried rewriting the lhs:
$$frac{a^2}{b + c} = frac{a^2(ab + bc + ca)}{b + c} = a^3 + frac{a^2bc}{b + c}$$
And this would result in: $a^3 + b^3 + c^3 + abc(frac{a}{b + c} + frac{b}{c + a} + frac{c}{a + b}) + frac{36}{a + b + c} geq 20$, but I didn't know how to continue from here.



Do you have any suggestions for this inequality?










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  • Where is this problem from?
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  • The problem is from the "Mathematics Magazine": gmb.ssmr.ro
    – Sandel
    Jan 4 at 16:07














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Show that if $a,b,c > 0$, such that $ab + bc + ca = 1$, then the following inequality holds:



$$ frac{a^2}{b + c} + frac{b^2}{c + a} + frac{c^2}{a + b} + frac{36}{a + b + c} geq 20 $$



What I have tried is firstly using the inequality:



$frac{x^2}{a} + frac{y^2}{b} geq frac{(x + y)^2}{a + b}$, for any $x, y$ and any $a,b > 0$.



Using this inequality we obtain $frac{a^2}{b + c} + frac{b^2}{c + a} + frac{c^2}{a + b} geq frac{a + b + c}{2}$, and then we have:
$$ frac{a^2}{b + c} + frac{b^2}{c + a} + frac{c^2}{a + b} + frac{36}{a + b + c} geq frac{a + b + c}{2} + frac{36}{a + b + c} = frac{(a + b + c)^2 + 72)}{2(a + b + c)} $$.
Using $ab + bc + ca = 1$, we would then have to prove that:
$$a^2 + b^2 + c^2 + 74 - 40(a + b + c) geq 0 $$ and then I tried replacing in this inequality $c = frac{1 - ab}{a + b}$, but I didn't get anything nice.



I also tried rewriting the lhs:
$$frac{a^2}{b + c} = frac{a^2(ab + bc + ca)}{b + c} = a^3 + frac{a^2bc}{b + c}$$
And this would result in: $a^3 + b^3 + c^3 + abc(frac{a}{b + c} + frac{b}{c + a} + frac{c}{a + b}) + frac{36}{a + b + c} geq 20$, but I didn't know how to continue from here.



Do you have any suggestions for this inequality?










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Show that if $a,b,c > 0$, such that $ab + bc + ca = 1$, then the following inequality holds:



$$ frac{a^2}{b + c} + frac{b^2}{c + a} + frac{c^2}{a + b} + frac{36}{a + b + c} geq 20 $$



What I have tried is firstly using the inequality:



$frac{x^2}{a} + frac{y^2}{b} geq frac{(x + y)^2}{a + b}$, for any $x, y$ and any $a,b > 0$.



Using this inequality we obtain $frac{a^2}{b + c} + frac{b^2}{c + a} + frac{c^2}{a + b} geq frac{a + b + c}{2}$, and then we have:
$$ frac{a^2}{b + c} + frac{b^2}{c + a} + frac{c^2}{a + b} + frac{36}{a + b + c} geq frac{a + b + c}{2} + frac{36}{a + b + c} = frac{(a + b + c)^2 + 72)}{2(a + b + c)} $$.
Using $ab + bc + ca = 1$, we would then have to prove that:
$$a^2 + b^2 + c^2 + 74 - 40(a + b + c) geq 0 $$ and then I tried replacing in this inequality $c = frac{1 - ab}{a + b}$, but I didn't get anything nice.



I also tried rewriting the lhs:
$$frac{a^2}{b + c} = frac{a^2(ab + bc + ca)}{b + c} = a^3 + frac{a^2bc}{b + c}$$
And this would result in: $a^3 + b^3 + c^3 + abc(frac{a}{b + c} + frac{b}{c + a} + frac{c}{a + b}) + frac{36}{a + b + c} geq 20$, but I didn't know how to continue from here.



Do you have any suggestions for this inequality?







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  • Where is this problem from?
    – Aaron
    Jan 4 at 15:54










  • The problem is from the "Mathematics Magazine": gmb.ssmr.ro
    – Sandel
    Jan 4 at 16:07


















  • Where is this problem from?
    – Aaron
    Jan 4 at 15:54










  • The problem is from the "Mathematics Magazine": gmb.ssmr.ro
    – Sandel
    Jan 4 at 16:07
















Where is this problem from?
– Aaron
Jan 4 at 15:54




Where is this problem from?
– Aaron
Jan 4 at 15:54












The problem is from the "Mathematics Magazine": gmb.ssmr.ro
– Sandel
Jan 4 at 16:07




The problem is from the "Mathematics Magazine": gmb.ssmr.ro
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Jan 4 at 16:07










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Your first step gives a wrong inequality. Try $crightarrow0+$ and $a=b=1$.



Let $a+b+c=3u$, $ab+ac+bc=3v^2$ and $abc=w^3$.
Thus, we need to prove that
$$frac{sumlimits_{cyc}a^2(a+b)(a+c)}{9uv^2-w^3}+frac{12}{u}geq20.$$
Now, we see that it's a linear inequality of $w^3$ because $sumlimits_{cyc}a^2(a+b)(a+c)$ is fourth degree and the condition does not depend on $w^3$.



Indeed, $$sum_{cyc}a^2(a+b)(a+c)=sum_{cyc}a^2(a(a+b+c)+bc)=$$
$$=(a^3+b^3+c^3)(a+b+c)+(a+b+c)abc=(27u^3-27uv^2+3w^3)3u+3uw^3.$$
Hence, we need to prove that
$$frac{(27u^3-27uv^2+3w^3)3u+3uw^3}{9uv^2-w^3}+frac{12}{u}geq20,$$ which is a linear inequality of $w^3$ after full expanding.



Thus, it's enough to prove our inequality for an extreme value of $w^3$, which happens in the following cases.





  1. $w^3rightarrow0^+$.


Let $crightarrow0^+$.



Thus, we need to prove that
$$frac{a^2}{frac{1}{a}}+frac{frac{1}{a^2}}{a}+frac{36}{a+frac{1}{a}}geq20$$ or
$$(a-1)^4(a^4+4a^3+11a^2+4a+1)geq0;$$
2. Two variables are equal.



Let $b=a$ and $c=frac{1-a^2}{2a},$ where $0<a<1$.



Thus, we need to prove that:
$$frac{2a^2}{a+frac{1-a^2}{2a}}+frac{left(frac{1-a^2}{2a}right)^2}{2a}+frac{36}{2a+frac{1-a^2}{2a}}geq20$$ or
$$(1-a)(1+a+3a^2-157a^3+415a^4-225a^5+381a^6-99a^7)geq0,$$
which is smooth.



We can use also the following way.
$$sum_{cyc}frac{a^2}{b+c}=sum_{cyc}frac{a^2(ab+ac+bc)}{b+c}=a^3+b^3+c^3+sum_{cyc}frac{a^2bc}{b+c}=$$
$$=(a+b+c)^3-3(a+b+c)(ab+ac+bc)+3abc+sum_{cyc}frac{a^2bc}{b+c}geq$$
$$geq(a+b+c)^3-3(a+b+c).$$
Id est, it's enough to prove that
$$(a+b+c)^3-3(a+b+c)+frac{36}{a+b+c}geq20.$$
Can you end it now?






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  • In the first inequality, I get $9uv^2-mathbf{3}w^3$ in the denominator of the first term, and ${mathbf{12}over u}$ for the second term. Also, would you please add some details on how you deduce that this is a linear inequality in $w^3?$ I don't follow the explanation at all.
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    Jan 4 at 16:53












  • @saulspatz In first it should be $9uv^2-w^3$. For the second it was typo. I fixed. Thank you! The expression $sumlimits_{cyc}a^2(a+b)(a+c)$ by fourth degree.
    – Michael Rozenberg
    Jan 4 at 16:55












  • Then did you mean to define $w^3=3abc?$ The post says $w^3=abc.$ I know that the numerator is of fourth degree, but I don't see what that has to do with the conclusion that the inequality is linear in $w^3.$
    – saulspatz
    Jan 4 at 17:06










  • I used the second proof, which is very nice and a bit simpler than the first one. Thank you a lot!
    – Sandel
    Jan 4 at 17:11






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    @MichaelRozenberg : I was almost about to say, where is arqady, then I realized I am not on AoPS, then I saw you already posted ;)
    – Aaron
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Your first step gives a wrong inequality. Try $crightarrow0+$ and $a=b=1$.



Let $a+b+c=3u$, $ab+ac+bc=3v^2$ and $abc=w^3$.
Thus, we need to prove that
$$frac{sumlimits_{cyc}a^2(a+b)(a+c)}{9uv^2-w^3}+frac{12}{u}geq20.$$
Now, we see that it's a linear inequality of $w^3$ because $sumlimits_{cyc}a^2(a+b)(a+c)$ is fourth degree and the condition does not depend on $w^3$.



Indeed, $$sum_{cyc}a^2(a+b)(a+c)=sum_{cyc}a^2(a(a+b+c)+bc)=$$
$$=(a^3+b^3+c^3)(a+b+c)+(a+b+c)abc=(27u^3-27uv^2+3w^3)3u+3uw^3.$$
Hence, we need to prove that
$$frac{(27u^3-27uv^2+3w^3)3u+3uw^3}{9uv^2-w^3}+frac{12}{u}geq20,$$ which is a linear inequality of $w^3$ after full expanding.



Thus, it's enough to prove our inequality for an extreme value of $w^3$, which happens in the following cases.





  1. $w^3rightarrow0^+$.


Let $crightarrow0^+$.



Thus, we need to prove that
$$frac{a^2}{frac{1}{a}}+frac{frac{1}{a^2}}{a}+frac{36}{a+frac{1}{a}}geq20$$ or
$$(a-1)^4(a^4+4a^3+11a^2+4a+1)geq0;$$
2. Two variables are equal.



Let $b=a$ and $c=frac{1-a^2}{2a},$ where $0<a<1$.



Thus, we need to prove that:
$$frac{2a^2}{a+frac{1-a^2}{2a}}+frac{left(frac{1-a^2}{2a}right)^2}{2a}+frac{36}{2a+frac{1-a^2}{2a}}geq20$$ or
$$(1-a)(1+a+3a^2-157a^3+415a^4-225a^5+381a^6-99a^7)geq0,$$
which is smooth.



We can use also the following way.
$$sum_{cyc}frac{a^2}{b+c}=sum_{cyc}frac{a^2(ab+ac+bc)}{b+c}=a^3+b^3+c^3+sum_{cyc}frac{a^2bc}{b+c}=$$
$$=(a+b+c)^3-3(a+b+c)(ab+ac+bc)+3abc+sum_{cyc}frac{a^2bc}{b+c}geq$$
$$geq(a+b+c)^3-3(a+b+c).$$
Id est, it's enough to prove that
$$(a+b+c)^3-3(a+b+c)+frac{36}{a+b+c}geq20.$$
Can you end it now?






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  • In the first inequality, I get $9uv^2-mathbf{3}w^3$ in the denominator of the first term, and ${mathbf{12}over u}$ for the second term. Also, would you please add some details on how you deduce that this is a linear inequality in $w^3?$ I don't follow the explanation at all.
    – saulspatz
    Jan 4 at 16:53












  • @saulspatz In first it should be $9uv^2-w^3$. For the second it was typo. I fixed. Thank you! The expression $sumlimits_{cyc}a^2(a+b)(a+c)$ by fourth degree.
    – Michael Rozenberg
    Jan 4 at 16:55












  • Then did you mean to define $w^3=3abc?$ The post says $w^3=abc.$ I know that the numerator is of fourth degree, but I don't see what that has to do with the conclusion that the inequality is linear in $w^3.$
    – saulspatz
    Jan 4 at 17:06










  • I used the second proof, which is very nice and a bit simpler than the first one. Thank you a lot!
    – Sandel
    Jan 4 at 17:11






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    @MichaelRozenberg : I was almost about to say, where is arqady, then I realized I am not on AoPS, then I saw you already posted ;)
    – Aaron
    Jan 4 at 18:53
















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Your first step gives a wrong inequality. Try $crightarrow0+$ and $a=b=1$.



Let $a+b+c=3u$, $ab+ac+bc=3v^2$ and $abc=w^3$.
Thus, we need to prove that
$$frac{sumlimits_{cyc}a^2(a+b)(a+c)}{9uv^2-w^3}+frac{12}{u}geq20.$$
Now, we see that it's a linear inequality of $w^3$ because $sumlimits_{cyc}a^2(a+b)(a+c)$ is fourth degree and the condition does not depend on $w^3$.



Indeed, $$sum_{cyc}a^2(a+b)(a+c)=sum_{cyc}a^2(a(a+b+c)+bc)=$$
$$=(a^3+b^3+c^3)(a+b+c)+(a+b+c)abc=(27u^3-27uv^2+3w^3)3u+3uw^3.$$
Hence, we need to prove that
$$frac{(27u^3-27uv^2+3w^3)3u+3uw^3}{9uv^2-w^3}+frac{12}{u}geq20,$$ which is a linear inequality of $w^3$ after full expanding.



Thus, it's enough to prove our inequality for an extreme value of $w^3$, which happens in the following cases.





  1. $w^3rightarrow0^+$.


Let $crightarrow0^+$.



Thus, we need to prove that
$$frac{a^2}{frac{1}{a}}+frac{frac{1}{a^2}}{a}+frac{36}{a+frac{1}{a}}geq20$$ or
$$(a-1)^4(a^4+4a^3+11a^2+4a+1)geq0;$$
2. Two variables are equal.



Let $b=a$ and $c=frac{1-a^2}{2a},$ where $0<a<1$.



Thus, we need to prove that:
$$frac{2a^2}{a+frac{1-a^2}{2a}}+frac{left(frac{1-a^2}{2a}right)^2}{2a}+frac{36}{2a+frac{1-a^2}{2a}}geq20$$ or
$$(1-a)(1+a+3a^2-157a^3+415a^4-225a^5+381a^6-99a^7)geq0,$$
which is smooth.



We can use also the following way.
$$sum_{cyc}frac{a^2}{b+c}=sum_{cyc}frac{a^2(ab+ac+bc)}{b+c}=a^3+b^3+c^3+sum_{cyc}frac{a^2bc}{b+c}=$$
$$=(a+b+c)^3-3(a+b+c)(ab+ac+bc)+3abc+sum_{cyc}frac{a^2bc}{b+c}geq$$
$$geq(a+b+c)^3-3(a+b+c).$$
Id est, it's enough to prove that
$$(a+b+c)^3-3(a+b+c)+frac{36}{a+b+c}geq20.$$
Can you end it now?






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  • In the first inequality, I get $9uv^2-mathbf{3}w^3$ in the denominator of the first term, and ${mathbf{12}over u}$ for the second term. Also, would you please add some details on how you deduce that this is a linear inequality in $w^3?$ I don't follow the explanation at all.
    – saulspatz
    Jan 4 at 16:53












  • @saulspatz In first it should be $9uv^2-w^3$. For the second it was typo. I fixed. Thank you! The expression $sumlimits_{cyc}a^2(a+b)(a+c)$ by fourth degree.
    – Michael Rozenberg
    Jan 4 at 16:55












  • Then did you mean to define $w^3=3abc?$ The post says $w^3=abc.$ I know that the numerator is of fourth degree, but I don't see what that has to do with the conclusion that the inequality is linear in $w^3.$
    – saulspatz
    Jan 4 at 17:06










  • I used the second proof, which is very nice and a bit simpler than the first one. Thank you a lot!
    – Sandel
    Jan 4 at 17:11






  • 1




    @MichaelRozenberg : I was almost about to say, where is arqady, then I realized I am not on AoPS, then I saw you already posted ;)
    – Aaron
    Jan 4 at 18:53














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Your first step gives a wrong inequality. Try $crightarrow0+$ and $a=b=1$.



Let $a+b+c=3u$, $ab+ac+bc=3v^2$ and $abc=w^3$.
Thus, we need to prove that
$$frac{sumlimits_{cyc}a^2(a+b)(a+c)}{9uv^2-w^3}+frac{12}{u}geq20.$$
Now, we see that it's a linear inequality of $w^3$ because $sumlimits_{cyc}a^2(a+b)(a+c)$ is fourth degree and the condition does not depend on $w^3$.



Indeed, $$sum_{cyc}a^2(a+b)(a+c)=sum_{cyc}a^2(a(a+b+c)+bc)=$$
$$=(a^3+b^3+c^3)(a+b+c)+(a+b+c)abc=(27u^3-27uv^2+3w^3)3u+3uw^3.$$
Hence, we need to prove that
$$frac{(27u^3-27uv^2+3w^3)3u+3uw^3}{9uv^2-w^3}+frac{12}{u}geq20,$$ which is a linear inequality of $w^3$ after full expanding.



Thus, it's enough to prove our inequality for an extreme value of $w^3$, which happens in the following cases.





  1. $w^3rightarrow0^+$.


Let $crightarrow0^+$.



Thus, we need to prove that
$$frac{a^2}{frac{1}{a}}+frac{frac{1}{a^2}}{a}+frac{36}{a+frac{1}{a}}geq20$$ or
$$(a-1)^4(a^4+4a^3+11a^2+4a+1)geq0;$$
2. Two variables are equal.



Let $b=a$ and $c=frac{1-a^2}{2a},$ where $0<a<1$.



Thus, we need to prove that:
$$frac{2a^2}{a+frac{1-a^2}{2a}}+frac{left(frac{1-a^2}{2a}right)^2}{2a}+frac{36}{2a+frac{1-a^2}{2a}}geq20$$ or
$$(1-a)(1+a+3a^2-157a^3+415a^4-225a^5+381a^6-99a^7)geq0,$$
which is smooth.



We can use also the following way.
$$sum_{cyc}frac{a^2}{b+c}=sum_{cyc}frac{a^2(ab+ac+bc)}{b+c}=a^3+b^3+c^3+sum_{cyc}frac{a^2bc}{b+c}=$$
$$=(a+b+c)^3-3(a+b+c)(ab+ac+bc)+3abc+sum_{cyc}frac{a^2bc}{b+c}geq$$
$$geq(a+b+c)^3-3(a+b+c).$$
Id est, it's enough to prove that
$$(a+b+c)^3-3(a+b+c)+frac{36}{a+b+c}geq20.$$
Can you end it now?






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Your first step gives a wrong inequality. Try $crightarrow0+$ and $a=b=1$.



Let $a+b+c=3u$, $ab+ac+bc=3v^2$ and $abc=w^3$.
Thus, we need to prove that
$$frac{sumlimits_{cyc}a^2(a+b)(a+c)}{9uv^2-w^3}+frac{12}{u}geq20.$$
Now, we see that it's a linear inequality of $w^3$ because $sumlimits_{cyc}a^2(a+b)(a+c)$ is fourth degree and the condition does not depend on $w^3$.



Indeed, $$sum_{cyc}a^2(a+b)(a+c)=sum_{cyc}a^2(a(a+b+c)+bc)=$$
$$=(a^3+b^3+c^3)(a+b+c)+(a+b+c)abc=(27u^3-27uv^2+3w^3)3u+3uw^3.$$
Hence, we need to prove that
$$frac{(27u^3-27uv^2+3w^3)3u+3uw^3}{9uv^2-w^3}+frac{12}{u}geq20,$$ which is a linear inequality of $w^3$ after full expanding.



Thus, it's enough to prove our inequality for an extreme value of $w^3$, which happens in the following cases.





  1. $w^3rightarrow0^+$.


Let $crightarrow0^+$.



Thus, we need to prove that
$$frac{a^2}{frac{1}{a}}+frac{frac{1}{a^2}}{a}+frac{36}{a+frac{1}{a}}geq20$$ or
$$(a-1)^4(a^4+4a^3+11a^2+4a+1)geq0;$$
2. Two variables are equal.



Let $b=a$ and $c=frac{1-a^2}{2a},$ where $0<a<1$.



Thus, we need to prove that:
$$frac{2a^2}{a+frac{1-a^2}{2a}}+frac{left(frac{1-a^2}{2a}right)^2}{2a}+frac{36}{2a+frac{1-a^2}{2a}}geq20$$ or
$$(1-a)(1+a+3a^2-157a^3+415a^4-225a^5+381a^6-99a^7)geq0,$$
which is smooth.



We can use also the following way.
$$sum_{cyc}frac{a^2}{b+c}=sum_{cyc}frac{a^2(ab+ac+bc)}{b+c}=a^3+b^3+c^3+sum_{cyc}frac{a^2bc}{b+c}=$$
$$=(a+b+c)^3-3(a+b+c)(ab+ac+bc)+3abc+sum_{cyc}frac{a^2bc}{b+c}geq$$
$$geq(a+b+c)^3-3(a+b+c).$$
Id est, it's enough to prove that
$$(a+b+c)^3-3(a+b+c)+frac{36}{a+b+c}geq20.$$
Can you end it now?







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  • In the first inequality, I get $9uv^2-mathbf{3}w^3$ in the denominator of the first term, and ${mathbf{12}over u}$ for the second term. Also, would you please add some details on how you deduce that this is a linear inequality in $w^3?$ I don't follow the explanation at all.
    – saulspatz
    Jan 4 at 16:53












  • @saulspatz In first it should be $9uv^2-w^3$. For the second it was typo. I fixed. Thank you! The expression $sumlimits_{cyc}a^2(a+b)(a+c)$ by fourth degree.
    – Michael Rozenberg
    Jan 4 at 16:55












  • Then did you mean to define $w^3=3abc?$ The post says $w^3=abc.$ I know that the numerator is of fourth degree, but I don't see what that has to do with the conclusion that the inequality is linear in $w^3.$
    – saulspatz
    Jan 4 at 17:06










  • I used the second proof, which is very nice and a bit simpler than the first one. Thank you a lot!
    – Sandel
    Jan 4 at 17:11






  • 1




    @MichaelRozenberg : I was almost about to say, where is arqady, then I realized I am not on AoPS, then I saw you already posted ;)
    – Aaron
    Jan 4 at 18:53


















  • In the first inequality, I get $9uv^2-mathbf{3}w^3$ in the denominator of the first term, and ${mathbf{12}over u}$ for the second term. Also, would you please add some details on how you deduce that this is a linear inequality in $w^3?$ I don't follow the explanation at all.
    – saulspatz
    Jan 4 at 16:53












  • @saulspatz In first it should be $9uv^2-w^3$. For the second it was typo. I fixed. Thank you! The expression $sumlimits_{cyc}a^2(a+b)(a+c)$ by fourth degree.
    – Michael Rozenberg
    Jan 4 at 16:55












  • Then did you mean to define $w^3=3abc?$ The post says $w^3=abc.$ I know that the numerator is of fourth degree, but I don't see what that has to do with the conclusion that the inequality is linear in $w^3.$
    – saulspatz
    Jan 4 at 17:06










  • I used the second proof, which is very nice and a bit simpler than the first one. Thank you a lot!
    – Sandel
    Jan 4 at 17:11






  • 1




    @MichaelRozenberg : I was almost about to say, where is arqady, then I realized I am not on AoPS, then I saw you already posted ;)
    – Aaron
    Jan 4 at 18:53
















In the first inequality, I get $9uv^2-mathbf{3}w^3$ in the denominator of the first term, and ${mathbf{12}over u}$ for the second term. Also, would you please add some details on how you deduce that this is a linear inequality in $w^3?$ I don't follow the explanation at all.
– saulspatz
Jan 4 at 16:53






In the first inequality, I get $9uv^2-mathbf{3}w^3$ in the denominator of the first term, and ${mathbf{12}over u}$ for the second term. Also, would you please add some details on how you deduce that this is a linear inequality in $w^3?$ I don't follow the explanation at all.
– saulspatz
Jan 4 at 16:53














@saulspatz In first it should be $9uv^2-w^3$. For the second it was typo. I fixed. Thank you! The expression $sumlimits_{cyc}a^2(a+b)(a+c)$ by fourth degree.
– Michael Rozenberg
Jan 4 at 16:55






@saulspatz In first it should be $9uv^2-w^3$. For the second it was typo. I fixed. Thank you! The expression $sumlimits_{cyc}a^2(a+b)(a+c)$ by fourth degree.
– Michael Rozenberg
Jan 4 at 16:55














Then did you mean to define $w^3=3abc?$ The post says $w^3=abc.$ I know that the numerator is of fourth degree, but I don't see what that has to do with the conclusion that the inequality is linear in $w^3.$
– saulspatz
Jan 4 at 17:06




Then did you mean to define $w^3=3abc?$ The post says $w^3=abc.$ I know that the numerator is of fourth degree, but I don't see what that has to do with the conclusion that the inequality is linear in $w^3.$
– saulspatz
Jan 4 at 17:06












I used the second proof, which is very nice and a bit simpler than the first one. Thank you a lot!
– Sandel
Jan 4 at 17:11




I used the second proof, which is very nice and a bit simpler than the first one. Thank you a lot!
– Sandel
Jan 4 at 17:11




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1




@MichaelRozenberg : I was almost about to say, where is arqady, then I realized I am not on AoPS, then I saw you already posted ;)
– Aaron
Jan 4 at 18:53




@MichaelRozenberg : I was almost about to say, where is arqady, then I realized I am not on AoPS, then I saw you already posted ;)
– Aaron
Jan 4 at 18:53


















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