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for $alpha_1ldots,alpha_n, betain mathbb R$, we define
$U = {(x_1ldots,x_n) ∈ mathbb{R}^n ,|, sum_{i=1}^n alpha_ix_i = beta}$.
When is the $U$ subspace?



I know that if subspace is a subspace only if $x,y∈ U$ and $A,C ∈ mathbb R$ this is true:



$Ax + Cy ∈ U$,



I could not find the answer so i checked the answer.



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I understand everything in explanation except the last part where it says that B needs to be 0 can someone explain to me why $beta$ needs to be 0.



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    Well if $B$ is not zero then 0 is not in the subspace.
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    Of course, but the OP wanted to understand that specific proof.
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    Ok thank you! But what if µ = 1/2 and λ = 1/2 than if B is diffrent than 0, (1/2 * B) + (1/2*B) = B
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$begingroup$


So the task says:



for $alpha_1ldots,alpha_n, betain mathbb R$, we define
$U = {(x_1ldots,x_n) ∈ mathbb{R}^n ,|, sum_{i=1}^n alpha_ix_i = beta}$.
When is the $U$ subspace?



I know that if subspace is a subspace only if $x,y∈ U$ and $A,C ∈ mathbb R$ this is true:



$Ax + Cy ∈ U$,



I could not find the answer so i checked the answer.



enter image description here



I understand everything in explanation except the last part where it says that B needs to be 0 can someone explain to me why $beta$ needs to be 0.



Thank you!










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    $begingroup$
    Well if $B$ is not zero then 0 is not in the subspace.
    $endgroup$
    – Calvin Khor
    Jan 20 at 19:34










  • $begingroup$
    Of course, but the OP wanted to understand that specific proof.
    $endgroup$
    – José Carlos Santos
    Jan 20 at 20:13










  • $begingroup$
    Ok thank you! But what if µ = 1/2 and λ = 1/2 than if B is diffrent than 0, (1/2 * B) + (1/2*B) = B
    $endgroup$
    – Petar
    Jan 20 at 20:35














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$begingroup$


So the task says:



for $alpha_1ldots,alpha_n, betain mathbb R$, we define
$U = {(x_1ldots,x_n) ∈ mathbb{R}^n ,|, sum_{i=1}^n alpha_ix_i = beta}$.
When is the $U$ subspace?



I know that if subspace is a subspace only if $x,y∈ U$ and $A,C ∈ mathbb R$ this is true:



$Ax + Cy ∈ U$,



I could not find the answer so i checked the answer.



enter image description here



I understand everything in explanation except the last part where it says that B needs to be 0 can someone explain to me why $beta$ needs to be 0.



Thank you!










share|cite|improve this question











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So the task says:



for $alpha_1ldots,alpha_n, betain mathbb R$, we define
$U = {(x_1ldots,x_n) ∈ mathbb{R}^n ,|, sum_{i=1}^n alpha_ix_i = beta}$.
When is the $U$ subspace?



I know that if subspace is a subspace only if $x,y∈ U$ and $A,C ∈ mathbb R$ this is true:



$Ax + Cy ∈ U$,



I could not find the answer so i checked the answer.



enter image description here



I understand everything in explanation except the last part where it says that B needs to be 0 can someone explain to me why $beta$ needs to be 0.



Thank you!







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    Well if $B$ is not zero then 0 is not in the subspace.
    $endgroup$
    – Calvin Khor
    Jan 20 at 19:34










  • $begingroup$
    Of course, but the OP wanted to understand that specific proof.
    $endgroup$
    – José Carlos Santos
    Jan 20 at 20:13










  • $begingroup$
    Ok thank you! But what if µ = 1/2 and λ = 1/2 than if B is diffrent than 0, (1/2 * B) + (1/2*B) = B
    $endgroup$
    – Petar
    Jan 20 at 20:35














  • 2




    $begingroup$
    Well if $B$ is not zero then 0 is not in the subspace.
    $endgroup$
    – Calvin Khor
    Jan 20 at 19:34










  • $begingroup$
    Of course, but the OP wanted to understand that specific proof.
    $endgroup$
    – José Carlos Santos
    Jan 20 at 20:13










  • $begingroup$
    Ok thank you! But what if µ = 1/2 and λ = 1/2 than if B is diffrent than 0, (1/2 * B) + (1/2*B) = B
    $endgroup$
    – Petar
    Jan 20 at 20:35








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$begingroup$
Well if $B$ is not zero then 0 is not in the subspace.
$endgroup$
– Calvin Khor
Jan 20 at 19:34




$begingroup$
Well if $B$ is not zero then 0 is not in the subspace.
$endgroup$
– Calvin Khor
Jan 20 at 19:34












$begingroup$
Of course, but the OP wanted to understand that specific proof.
$endgroup$
– José Carlos Santos
Jan 20 at 20:13




$begingroup$
Of course, but the OP wanted to understand that specific proof.
$endgroup$
– José Carlos Santos
Jan 20 at 20:13












$begingroup$
Ok thank you! But what if µ = 1/2 and λ = 1/2 than if B is diffrent than 0, (1/2 * B) + (1/2*B) = B
$endgroup$
– Petar
Jan 20 at 20:35




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Ok thank you! But what if µ = 1/2 and λ = 1/2 than if B is diffrent than 0, (1/2 * B) + (1/2*B) = B
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Because if $betaneq0$, then you take, say, $lambda=mu=1$, and then it will be false that $lambdabeta+mubeta=beta$, since then this would mean that $2beta=beta$.






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    Ok thank you! But what if µ = 1/2 and λ = 1/2 than if B is diffrent than 0, (1/2 * B) + (1/2*B) = B
    $endgroup$
    – Petar
    Jan 20 at 20:05










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    If $mu=lambda=frac12$, you deduce nothing. But the proof says that for all real $mu$ and $lambda$ we have $mubeta+lambdabeta=beta$. So, I used $mu=lambda=1$ to reach a contradiction. That's all.
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    – José Carlos Santos
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    Ok thank you! I understand it now.
    $endgroup$
    – Petar
    Jan 20 at 21:51










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    If my answer was useful, perhaps that you could mark it as the accepted one.
    $endgroup$
    – José Carlos Santos
    Jan 20 at 21:53










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    yes i did it now ,tnx
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Notice that $sum_1^na_ix_i$ is merely the dot product of $mathbf x=(x_1,x_2,...,x_n)in U$ with the vector $mathbf a=(a_1,a_2,...,a_n)$. Given that vector $mathbf xin Uleftrightarrowmathbf xcdotmathbf a=B$. Now, $mathbf x,mathbf yin Uimpliesmathbf x+mathbf yin Uimplies(mathbf x+mathbf y)cdot mathbf a=mathbf{xcdot a}+mathbf{ycdot a}=B+B=B$, that implies $B=0$.






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    Because if $betaneq0$, then you take, say, $lambda=mu=1$, and then it will be false that $lambdabeta+mubeta=beta$, since then this would mean that $2beta=beta$.






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    • $begingroup$
      Ok thank you! But what if µ = 1/2 and λ = 1/2 than if B is diffrent than 0, (1/2 * B) + (1/2*B) = B
      $endgroup$
      – Petar
      Jan 20 at 20:05










    • $begingroup$
      If $mu=lambda=frac12$, you deduce nothing. But the proof says that for all real $mu$ and $lambda$ we have $mubeta+lambdabeta=beta$. So, I used $mu=lambda=1$ to reach a contradiction. That's all.
      $endgroup$
      – José Carlos Santos
      Jan 20 at 21:34












    • $begingroup$
      Ok thank you! I understand it now.
      $endgroup$
      – Petar
      Jan 20 at 21:51










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      If my answer was useful, perhaps that you could mark it as the accepted one.
      $endgroup$
      – José Carlos Santos
      Jan 20 at 21:53










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      yes i did it now ,tnx
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    $begingroup$

    Because if $betaneq0$, then you take, say, $lambda=mu=1$, and then it will be false that $lambdabeta+mubeta=beta$, since then this would mean that $2beta=beta$.






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    • $begingroup$
      Ok thank you! But what if µ = 1/2 and λ = 1/2 than if B is diffrent than 0, (1/2 * B) + (1/2*B) = B
      $endgroup$
      – Petar
      Jan 20 at 20:05










    • $begingroup$
      If $mu=lambda=frac12$, you deduce nothing. But the proof says that for all real $mu$ and $lambda$ we have $mubeta+lambdabeta=beta$. So, I used $mu=lambda=1$ to reach a contradiction. That's all.
      $endgroup$
      – José Carlos Santos
      Jan 20 at 21:34












    • $begingroup$
      Ok thank you! I understand it now.
      $endgroup$
      – Petar
      Jan 20 at 21:51










    • $begingroup$
      If my answer was useful, perhaps that you could mark it as the accepted one.
      $endgroup$
      – José Carlos Santos
      Jan 20 at 21:53










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      yes i did it now ,tnx
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      – Petar
      Jan 20 at 22:09














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    Because if $betaneq0$, then you take, say, $lambda=mu=1$, and then it will be false that $lambdabeta+mubeta=beta$, since then this would mean that $2beta=beta$.






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    Because if $betaneq0$, then you take, say, $lambda=mu=1$, and then it will be false that $lambdabeta+mubeta=beta$, since then this would mean that $2beta=beta$.







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    • $begingroup$
      Ok thank you! But what if µ = 1/2 and λ = 1/2 than if B is diffrent than 0, (1/2 * B) + (1/2*B) = B
      $endgroup$
      – Petar
      Jan 20 at 20:05










    • $begingroup$
      If $mu=lambda=frac12$, you deduce nothing. But the proof says that for all real $mu$ and $lambda$ we have $mubeta+lambdabeta=beta$. So, I used $mu=lambda=1$ to reach a contradiction. That's all.
      $endgroup$
      – José Carlos Santos
      Jan 20 at 21:34












    • $begingroup$
      Ok thank you! I understand it now.
      $endgroup$
      – Petar
      Jan 20 at 21:51










    • $begingroup$
      If my answer was useful, perhaps that you could mark it as the accepted one.
      $endgroup$
      – José Carlos Santos
      Jan 20 at 21:53










    • $begingroup$
      yes i did it now ,tnx
      $endgroup$
      – Petar
      Jan 20 at 22:09


















    • $begingroup$
      Ok thank you! But what if µ = 1/2 and λ = 1/2 than if B is diffrent than 0, (1/2 * B) + (1/2*B) = B
      $endgroup$
      – Petar
      Jan 20 at 20:05










    • $begingroup$
      If $mu=lambda=frac12$, you deduce nothing. But the proof says that for all real $mu$ and $lambda$ we have $mubeta+lambdabeta=beta$. So, I used $mu=lambda=1$ to reach a contradiction. That's all.
      $endgroup$
      – José Carlos Santos
      Jan 20 at 21:34












    • $begingroup$
      Ok thank you! I understand it now.
      $endgroup$
      – Petar
      Jan 20 at 21:51










    • $begingroup$
      If my answer was useful, perhaps that you could mark it as the accepted one.
      $endgroup$
      – José Carlos Santos
      Jan 20 at 21:53










    • $begingroup$
      yes i did it now ,tnx
      $endgroup$
      – Petar
      Jan 20 at 22:09
















    $begingroup$
    Ok thank you! But what if µ = 1/2 and λ = 1/2 than if B is diffrent than 0, (1/2 * B) + (1/2*B) = B
    $endgroup$
    – Petar
    Jan 20 at 20:05




    $begingroup$
    Ok thank you! But what if µ = 1/2 and λ = 1/2 than if B is diffrent than 0, (1/2 * B) + (1/2*B) = B
    $endgroup$
    – Petar
    Jan 20 at 20:05












    $begingroup$
    If $mu=lambda=frac12$, you deduce nothing. But the proof says that for all real $mu$ and $lambda$ we have $mubeta+lambdabeta=beta$. So, I used $mu=lambda=1$ to reach a contradiction. That's all.
    $endgroup$
    – José Carlos Santos
    Jan 20 at 21:34






    $begingroup$
    If $mu=lambda=frac12$, you deduce nothing. But the proof says that for all real $mu$ and $lambda$ we have $mubeta+lambdabeta=beta$. So, I used $mu=lambda=1$ to reach a contradiction. That's all.
    $endgroup$
    – José Carlos Santos
    Jan 20 at 21:34














    $begingroup$
    Ok thank you! I understand it now.
    $endgroup$
    – Petar
    Jan 20 at 21:51




    $begingroup$
    Ok thank you! I understand it now.
    $endgroup$
    – Petar
    Jan 20 at 21:51












    $begingroup$
    If my answer was useful, perhaps that you could mark it as the accepted one.
    $endgroup$
    – José Carlos Santos
    Jan 20 at 21:53




    $begingroup$
    If my answer was useful, perhaps that you could mark it as the accepted one.
    $endgroup$
    – José Carlos Santos
    Jan 20 at 21:53












    $begingroup$
    yes i did it now ,tnx
    $endgroup$
    – Petar
    Jan 20 at 22:09




    $begingroup$
    yes i did it now ,tnx
    $endgroup$
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    Notice that $sum_1^na_ix_i$ is merely the dot product of $mathbf x=(x_1,x_2,...,x_n)in U$ with the vector $mathbf a=(a_1,a_2,...,a_n)$. Given that vector $mathbf xin Uleftrightarrowmathbf xcdotmathbf a=B$. Now, $mathbf x,mathbf yin Uimpliesmathbf x+mathbf yin Uimplies(mathbf x+mathbf y)cdot mathbf a=mathbf{xcdot a}+mathbf{ycdot a}=B+B=B$, that implies $B=0$.






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      Notice that $sum_1^na_ix_i$ is merely the dot product of $mathbf x=(x_1,x_2,...,x_n)in U$ with the vector $mathbf a=(a_1,a_2,...,a_n)$. Given that vector $mathbf xin Uleftrightarrowmathbf xcdotmathbf a=B$. Now, $mathbf x,mathbf yin Uimpliesmathbf x+mathbf yin Uimplies(mathbf x+mathbf y)cdot mathbf a=mathbf{xcdot a}+mathbf{ycdot a}=B+B=B$, that implies $B=0$.






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        Notice that $sum_1^na_ix_i$ is merely the dot product of $mathbf x=(x_1,x_2,...,x_n)in U$ with the vector $mathbf a=(a_1,a_2,...,a_n)$. Given that vector $mathbf xin Uleftrightarrowmathbf xcdotmathbf a=B$. Now, $mathbf x,mathbf yin Uimpliesmathbf x+mathbf yin Uimplies(mathbf x+mathbf y)cdot mathbf a=mathbf{xcdot a}+mathbf{ycdot a}=B+B=B$, that implies $B=0$.






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        Notice that $sum_1^na_ix_i$ is merely the dot product of $mathbf x=(x_1,x_2,...,x_n)in U$ with the vector $mathbf a=(a_1,a_2,...,a_n)$. Given that vector $mathbf xin Uleftrightarrowmathbf xcdotmathbf a=B$. Now, $mathbf x,mathbf yin Uimpliesmathbf x+mathbf yin Uimplies(mathbf x+mathbf y)cdot mathbf a=mathbf{xcdot a}+mathbf{ycdot a}=B+B=B$, that implies $B=0$.







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