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So I have a question in finding the limit of this sequence:



Let $$a_n :=(4^{10}+n2^n)^frac{1}{n}$$



My attempt:



Take out a factor of n and use the result $(n)^frac{1}{n}to1$ as $ntoinfty$



So we get $$a_n :=(frac{2^{20}}{n}+2^n)^frac{1}{n}$$



Now here is my question, can I use the fact that $lim_{ntoinfty}frac{2^{20}}{n} = 0$



And substitute that into the brack to arrive to the answer of 2?$[(2^n)^frac{1}{n} = 2]$










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    So I have a question in finding the limit of this sequence:



    Let $$a_n :=(4^{10}+n2^n)^frac{1}{n}$$



    My attempt:



    Take out a factor of n and use the result $(n)^frac{1}{n}to1$ as $ntoinfty$



    So we get $$a_n :=(frac{2^{20}}{n}+2^n)^frac{1}{n}$$



    Now here is my question, can I use the fact that $lim_{ntoinfty}frac{2^{20}}{n} = 0$



    And substitute that into the brack to arrive to the answer of 2?$[(2^n)^frac{1}{n} = 2]$










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      So I have a question in finding the limit of this sequence:



      Let $$a_n :=(4^{10}+n2^n)^frac{1}{n}$$



      My attempt:



      Take out a factor of n and use the result $(n)^frac{1}{n}to1$ as $ntoinfty$



      So we get $$a_n :=(frac{2^{20}}{n}+2^n)^frac{1}{n}$$



      Now here is my question, can I use the fact that $lim_{ntoinfty}frac{2^{20}}{n} = 0$



      And substitute that into the brack to arrive to the answer of 2?$[(2^n)^frac{1}{n} = 2]$










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      So I have a question in finding the limit of this sequence:



      Let $$a_n :=(4^{10}+n2^n)^frac{1}{n}$$



      My attempt:



      Take out a factor of n and use the result $(n)^frac{1}{n}to1$ as $ntoinfty$



      So we get $$a_n :=(frac{2^{20}}{n}+2^n)^frac{1}{n}$$



      Now here is my question, can I use the fact that $lim_{ntoinfty}frac{2^{20}}{n} = 0$



      And substitute that into the brack to arrive to the answer of 2?$[(2^n)^frac{1}{n} = 2]$







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          No you are not allowed to take the limit under a power of $n$.



          Here is an approach: For $n geq 20$



          $a_n =(4^{10}+n2^n)^frac{1}{n}=(2^{20}+n2^n)^frac{1}{n} leq (20.2^{20}+n2^n)^frac{1}{n} leq (n.2^{n}+n2^n)^frac{1}{n} leq (n.2^{n+1})^frac{1}{n}$



          and: $(n2^n)^frac{1}{n} leq a_n =(4^{10}+n2^n)^frac{1}{n} $



          Now use Squeeze theorem.






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            No, you can’t treat the limits separately.



            For a very simple and well-known example demonstrating this, take



            $$lim_{n to infty}left(1+frac{x}{n}right)^n = e^x$$



            If you treat $frac{x}{n}$ separately and take the limit as $n to infty$, you will get $(1+0)^n = 1^n = 1$, which is incorrect, as the limit equals $e^x$.






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              No you are not allowed to take the limit under a power of $n$.



              Here is an approach: For $n geq 20$



              $a_n =(4^{10}+n2^n)^frac{1}{n}=(2^{20}+n2^n)^frac{1}{n} leq (20.2^{20}+n2^n)^frac{1}{n} leq (n.2^{n}+n2^n)^frac{1}{n} leq (n.2^{n+1})^frac{1}{n}$



              and: $(n2^n)^frac{1}{n} leq a_n =(4^{10}+n2^n)^frac{1}{n} $



              Now use Squeeze theorem.






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                No you are not allowed to take the limit under a power of $n$.



                Here is an approach: For $n geq 20$



                $a_n =(4^{10}+n2^n)^frac{1}{n}=(2^{20}+n2^n)^frac{1}{n} leq (20.2^{20}+n2^n)^frac{1}{n} leq (n.2^{n}+n2^n)^frac{1}{n} leq (n.2^{n+1})^frac{1}{n}$



                and: $(n2^n)^frac{1}{n} leq a_n =(4^{10}+n2^n)^frac{1}{n} $



                Now use Squeeze theorem.






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                  No you are not allowed to take the limit under a power of $n$.



                  Here is an approach: For $n geq 20$



                  $a_n =(4^{10}+n2^n)^frac{1}{n}=(2^{20}+n2^n)^frac{1}{n} leq (20.2^{20}+n2^n)^frac{1}{n} leq (n.2^{n}+n2^n)^frac{1}{n} leq (n.2^{n+1})^frac{1}{n}$



                  and: $(n2^n)^frac{1}{n} leq a_n =(4^{10}+n2^n)^frac{1}{n} $



                  Now use Squeeze theorem.






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                  No you are not allowed to take the limit under a power of $n$.



                  Here is an approach: For $n geq 20$



                  $a_n =(4^{10}+n2^n)^frac{1}{n}=(2^{20}+n2^n)^frac{1}{n} leq (20.2^{20}+n2^n)^frac{1}{n} leq (n.2^{n}+n2^n)^frac{1}{n} leq (n.2^{n+1})^frac{1}{n}$



                  and: $(n2^n)^frac{1}{n} leq a_n =(4^{10}+n2^n)^frac{1}{n} $



                  Now use Squeeze theorem.







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                      No, you can’t treat the limits separately.



                      For a very simple and well-known example demonstrating this, take



                      $$lim_{n to infty}left(1+frac{x}{n}right)^n = e^x$$



                      If you treat $frac{x}{n}$ separately and take the limit as $n to infty$, you will get $(1+0)^n = 1^n = 1$, which is incorrect, as the limit equals $e^x$.






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                        No, you can’t treat the limits separately.



                        For a very simple and well-known example demonstrating this, take



                        $$lim_{n to infty}left(1+frac{x}{n}right)^n = e^x$$



                        If you treat $frac{x}{n}$ separately and take the limit as $n to infty$, you will get $(1+0)^n = 1^n = 1$, which is incorrect, as the limit equals $e^x$.






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                          No, you can’t treat the limits separately.



                          For a very simple and well-known example demonstrating this, take



                          $$lim_{n to infty}left(1+frac{x}{n}right)^n = e^x$$



                          If you treat $frac{x}{n}$ separately and take the limit as $n to infty$, you will get $(1+0)^n = 1^n = 1$, which is incorrect, as the limit equals $e^x$.






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                          No, you can’t treat the limits separately.



                          For a very simple and well-known example demonstrating this, take



                          $$lim_{n to infty}left(1+frac{x}{n}right)^n = e^x$$



                          If you treat $frac{x}{n}$ separately and take the limit as $n to infty$, you will get $(1+0)^n = 1^n = 1$, which is incorrect, as the limit equals $e^x$.







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