Limits of a parametric equation
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I have the following equation which states that $σ$ is an explicit function of $k$:$$σ=frac b{1-cleft(1+left(fracβαk^A-Bright)^{-1}right)},$$
where $A=dfrac{b+c-1}{b}, ;B=dfrac{c}{b+c-1},;;dfracβα$ is a constant and the value of $σ$ has to be positive.
The author found that:
- If $b+c>1$, the value of $sigma$ declines with increased $k$ and approaches $dfrac{b}{1-c}$ which is greater than $1$ as $k$ increases without limit.
- If $b+c<1$, the value of $sigma$ increases from $dfrac{b}{1-c}$ which is less than $1$, to $1$ as $k$ increases from $0$ to infinity.
How can I derive these results mathematically?
Further I have tried to simulate the function. While I can replicate the result when $b+c<1$ with the function that tends to the limit $dfrac{b}{1-c}$, I see strange behaviors not corresponding to the result described above when $b+c>1$. So, are there any restrictions so that the values of $b$ and $c$ whose sum is greater than one produce a decreasing function and tending to the $dfrac{b}{1-c}$ limit which this time should be greater than $1$?
Thanks a lot in advance to anyone who wants to help me :)
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I have the following equation which states that $σ$ is an explicit function of $k$:$$σ=frac b{1-cleft(1+left(fracβαk^A-Bright)^{-1}right)},$$
where $A=dfrac{b+c-1}{b}, ;B=dfrac{c}{b+c-1},;;dfracβα$ is a constant and the value of $σ$ has to be positive.
The author found that:
- If $b+c>1$, the value of $sigma$ declines with increased $k$ and approaches $dfrac{b}{1-c}$ which is greater than $1$ as $k$ increases without limit.
- If $b+c<1$, the value of $sigma$ increases from $dfrac{b}{1-c}$ which is less than $1$, to $1$ as $k$ increases from $0$ to infinity.
How can I derive these results mathematically?
Further I have tried to simulate the function. While I can replicate the result when $b+c<1$ with the function that tends to the limit $dfrac{b}{1-c}$, I see strange behaviors not corresponding to the result described above when $b+c>1$. So, are there any restrictions so that the values of $b$ and $c$ whose sum is greater than one produce a decreasing function and tending to the $dfrac{b}{1-c}$ limit which this time should be greater than $1$?
Thanks a lot in advance to anyone who wants to help me :)
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I have the following equation which states that $σ$ is an explicit function of $k$:$$σ=frac b{1-cleft(1+left(fracβαk^A-Bright)^{-1}right)},$$
where $A=dfrac{b+c-1}{b}, ;B=dfrac{c}{b+c-1},;;dfracβα$ is a constant and the value of $σ$ has to be positive.
The author found that:
- If $b+c>1$, the value of $sigma$ declines with increased $k$ and approaches $dfrac{b}{1-c}$ which is greater than $1$ as $k$ increases without limit.
- If $b+c<1$, the value of $sigma$ increases from $dfrac{b}{1-c}$ which is less than $1$, to $1$ as $k$ increases from $0$ to infinity.
How can I derive these results mathematically?
Further I have tried to simulate the function. While I can replicate the result when $b+c<1$ with the function that tends to the limit $dfrac{b}{1-c}$, I see strange behaviors not corresponding to the result described above when $b+c>1$. So, are there any restrictions so that the values of $b$ and $c$ whose sum is greater than one produce a decreasing function and tending to the $dfrac{b}{1-c}$ limit which this time should be greater than $1$?
Thanks a lot in advance to anyone who wants to help me :)
calculus limits
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I have the following equation which states that $σ$ is an explicit function of $k$:$$σ=frac b{1-cleft(1+left(fracβαk^A-Bright)^{-1}right)},$$
where $A=dfrac{b+c-1}{b}, ;B=dfrac{c}{b+c-1},;;dfracβα$ is a constant and the value of $σ$ has to be positive.
The author found that:
- If $b+c>1$, the value of $sigma$ declines with increased $k$ and approaches $dfrac{b}{1-c}$ which is greater than $1$ as $k$ increases without limit.
- If $b+c<1$, the value of $sigma$ increases from $dfrac{b}{1-c}$ which is less than $1$, to $1$ as $k$ increases from $0$ to infinity.
How can I derive these results mathematically?
Further I have tried to simulate the function. While I can replicate the result when $b+c<1$ with the function that tends to the limit $dfrac{b}{1-c}$, I see strange behaviors not corresponding to the result described above when $b+c>1$. So, are there any restrictions so that the values of $b$ and $c$ whose sum is greater than one produce a decreasing function and tending to the $dfrac{b}{1-c}$ limit which this time should be greater than $1$?
Thanks a lot in advance to anyone who wants to help me :)
calculus limits
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It is not given, though I assume $b,c>0.$
If $;b+c>1;$ then $A=frac{b+c-1}{b}>0,$ and consequently $k^A;$ increases, $;k^A to infty;$ as $;kto infty.$
Then $left(fracβαk^A-Bright)^{-1};$ decreases to $0$ and finally $sigma;$ decreases to $$lim_{ktoinfty}frac b{1-cleft(1+left(fracβαk^A-Bright)^{-1}right)}=frac{b}{1-ccdot (1+0)}=frac{b}{1-c}$$If $;b+c<1;$ then $A=frac{b+c-1}{b}<0,$ and $k^A;$ decreases to $0$ as $;kto infty.$
Note that $limlimits_{kto 0^{+}}k^A=infty.$
Further, $left(fracβαk^A-Bright)=left(fracβαk^A+frac{c}{1-(b+c)}right);$ decreases to $frac{c}{1-(b+c)};$ from where we conclude that $left(fracβαk^A-Bright)^{-1};$ increases to $;frac{1-(b+c)}{c}.$
Put together, $sigma$ increases from the value$$lim_{kto 0^{+}}sigma(k)=lim_{kto 0^{+}}frac b{1-cleft(1+left(fracβαk^A-Bright)^{-1}right)}=frac{b}{1-cleft(1+0right)}=frac{b}{1-c}$$
to
$$lim_{ktoinfty}sigma(k)=lim_{ktoinfty}frac b{1-cleft(1+left(fracβαk^A-Bright)^{-1}right)}=frac{b}{1-cleft(1+frac{1-(b+c)}{c}right)}=1.$$
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Thank you for your answer! :) If I try to give some numerical values to the function on Excel for the second case no problem, but when b+c are greater than 1, the block $k^{A}-B$ has a strange behaviour and assume negative values. I attach a pictures of the two cases here below: drive.google.com/open?id=11HPJcunadtpBUzmjFDCrbpGldMPW3BEL
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Only when the b is "high enough" and the value of c is "low enough" the right behaviour of sigma took place. drive.google.com/file/d/1hzIRYBuFufCJ1f0dCBKWuQl9JDCfHYEm/…
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– Alessandro
Jan 9 at 16:44
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Is there any relation between $alpha, beta$ and other constants?
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– user376343
Jan 9 at 18:09
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Indeed yep: $alpha = (1-delta )gamma ^{-rho }$ and $beta= delta gamma ^{-rho }$. Where $rho = frac{1}{b}-1$ and $0<delta<1$. But since in my case $gamma =1$ always their ratio should always be constant. Thank u so much for u help! :)
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It is not given, though I assume $b,c>0.$
If $;b+c>1;$ then $A=frac{b+c-1}{b}>0,$ and consequently $k^A;$ increases, $;k^A to infty;$ as $;kto infty.$
Then $left(fracβαk^A-Bright)^{-1};$ decreases to $0$ and finally $sigma;$ decreases to $$lim_{ktoinfty}frac b{1-cleft(1+left(fracβαk^A-Bright)^{-1}right)}=frac{b}{1-ccdot (1+0)}=frac{b}{1-c}$$If $;b+c<1;$ then $A=frac{b+c-1}{b}<0,$ and $k^A;$ decreases to $0$ as $;kto infty.$
Note that $limlimits_{kto 0^{+}}k^A=infty.$
Further, $left(fracβαk^A-Bright)=left(fracβαk^A+frac{c}{1-(b+c)}right);$ decreases to $frac{c}{1-(b+c)};$ from where we conclude that $left(fracβαk^A-Bright)^{-1};$ increases to $;frac{1-(b+c)}{c}.$
Put together, $sigma$ increases from the value$$lim_{kto 0^{+}}sigma(k)=lim_{kto 0^{+}}frac b{1-cleft(1+left(fracβαk^A-Bright)^{-1}right)}=frac{b}{1-cleft(1+0right)}=frac{b}{1-c}$$
to
$$lim_{ktoinfty}sigma(k)=lim_{ktoinfty}frac b{1-cleft(1+left(fracβαk^A-Bright)^{-1}right)}=frac{b}{1-cleft(1+frac{1-(b+c)}{c}right)}=1.$$
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Thank you for your answer! :) If I try to give some numerical values to the function on Excel for the second case no problem, but when b+c are greater than 1, the block $k^{A}-B$ has a strange behaviour and assume negative values. I attach a pictures of the two cases here below: drive.google.com/open?id=11HPJcunadtpBUzmjFDCrbpGldMPW3BEL
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– Alessandro
Jan 9 at 15:53
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Only when the b is "high enough" and the value of c is "low enough" the right behaviour of sigma took place. drive.google.com/file/d/1hzIRYBuFufCJ1f0dCBKWuQl9JDCfHYEm/…
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– Alessandro
Jan 9 at 16:44
1
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Is there any relation between $alpha, beta$ and other constants?
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– user376343
Jan 9 at 18:09
1
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Indeed yep: $alpha = (1-delta )gamma ^{-rho }$ and $beta= delta gamma ^{-rho }$. Where $rho = frac{1}{b}-1$ and $0<delta<1$. But since in my case $gamma =1$ always their ratio should always be constant. Thank u so much for u help! :)
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– Alessandro
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It is not given, though I assume $b,c>0.$
If $;b+c>1;$ then $A=frac{b+c-1}{b}>0,$ and consequently $k^A;$ increases, $;k^A to infty;$ as $;kto infty.$
Then $left(fracβαk^A-Bright)^{-1};$ decreases to $0$ and finally $sigma;$ decreases to $$lim_{ktoinfty}frac b{1-cleft(1+left(fracβαk^A-Bright)^{-1}right)}=frac{b}{1-ccdot (1+0)}=frac{b}{1-c}$$If $;b+c<1;$ then $A=frac{b+c-1}{b}<0,$ and $k^A;$ decreases to $0$ as $;kto infty.$
Note that $limlimits_{kto 0^{+}}k^A=infty.$
Further, $left(fracβαk^A-Bright)=left(fracβαk^A+frac{c}{1-(b+c)}right);$ decreases to $frac{c}{1-(b+c)};$ from where we conclude that $left(fracβαk^A-Bright)^{-1};$ increases to $;frac{1-(b+c)}{c}.$
Put together, $sigma$ increases from the value$$lim_{kto 0^{+}}sigma(k)=lim_{kto 0^{+}}frac b{1-cleft(1+left(fracβαk^A-Bright)^{-1}right)}=frac{b}{1-cleft(1+0right)}=frac{b}{1-c}$$
to
$$lim_{ktoinfty}sigma(k)=lim_{ktoinfty}frac b{1-cleft(1+left(fracβαk^A-Bright)^{-1}right)}=frac{b}{1-cleft(1+frac{1-(b+c)}{c}right)}=1.$$
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Thank you for your answer! :) If I try to give some numerical values to the function on Excel for the second case no problem, but when b+c are greater than 1, the block $k^{A}-B$ has a strange behaviour and assume negative values. I attach a pictures of the two cases here below: drive.google.com/open?id=11HPJcunadtpBUzmjFDCrbpGldMPW3BEL
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– Alessandro
Jan 9 at 15:53
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Only when the b is "high enough" and the value of c is "low enough" the right behaviour of sigma took place. drive.google.com/file/d/1hzIRYBuFufCJ1f0dCBKWuQl9JDCfHYEm/…
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– Alessandro
Jan 9 at 16:44
1
$begingroup$
Is there any relation between $alpha, beta$ and other constants?
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– user376343
Jan 9 at 18:09
1
$begingroup$
Indeed yep: $alpha = (1-delta )gamma ^{-rho }$ and $beta= delta gamma ^{-rho }$. Where $rho = frac{1}{b}-1$ and $0<delta<1$. But since in my case $gamma =1$ always their ratio should always be constant. Thank u so much for u help! :)
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– Alessandro
Jan 9 at 18:29
add a comment |
$begingroup$
It is not given, though I assume $b,c>0.$
If $;b+c>1;$ then $A=frac{b+c-1}{b}>0,$ and consequently $k^A;$ increases, $;k^A to infty;$ as $;kto infty.$
Then $left(fracβαk^A-Bright)^{-1};$ decreases to $0$ and finally $sigma;$ decreases to $$lim_{ktoinfty}frac b{1-cleft(1+left(fracβαk^A-Bright)^{-1}right)}=frac{b}{1-ccdot (1+0)}=frac{b}{1-c}$$If $;b+c<1;$ then $A=frac{b+c-1}{b}<0,$ and $k^A;$ decreases to $0$ as $;kto infty.$
Note that $limlimits_{kto 0^{+}}k^A=infty.$
Further, $left(fracβαk^A-Bright)=left(fracβαk^A+frac{c}{1-(b+c)}right);$ decreases to $frac{c}{1-(b+c)};$ from where we conclude that $left(fracβαk^A-Bright)^{-1};$ increases to $;frac{1-(b+c)}{c}.$
Put together, $sigma$ increases from the value$$lim_{kto 0^{+}}sigma(k)=lim_{kto 0^{+}}frac b{1-cleft(1+left(fracβαk^A-Bright)^{-1}right)}=frac{b}{1-cleft(1+0right)}=frac{b}{1-c}$$
to
$$lim_{ktoinfty}sigma(k)=lim_{ktoinfty}frac b{1-cleft(1+left(fracβαk^A-Bright)^{-1}right)}=frac{b}{1-cleft(1+frac{1-(b+c)}{c}right)}=1.$$
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It is not given, though I assume $b,c>0.$
If $;b+c>1;$ then $A=frac{b+c-1}{b}>0,$ and consequently $k^A;$ increases, $;k^A to infty;$ as $;kto infty.$
Then $left(fracβαk^A-Bright)^{-1};$ decreases to $0$ and finally $sigma;$ decreases to $$lim_{ktoinfty}frac b{1-cleft(1+left(fracβαk^A-Bright)^{-1}right)}=frac{b}{1-ccdot (1+0)}=frac{b}{1-c}$$If $;b+c<1;$ then $A=frac{b+c-1}{b}<0,$ and $k^A;$ decreases to $0$ as $;kto infty.$
Note that $limlimits_{kto 0^{+}}k^A=infty.$
Further, $left(fracβαk^A-Bright)=left(fracβαk^A+frac{c}{1-(b+c)}right);$ decreases to $frac{c}{1-(b+c)};$ from where we conclude that $left(fracβαk^A-Bright)^{-1};$ increases to $;frac{1-(b+c)}{c}.$
Put together, $sigma$ increases from the value$$lim_{kto 0^{+}}sigma(k)=lim_{kto 0^{+}}frac b{1-cleft(1+left(fracβαk^A-Bright)^{-1}right)}=frac{b}{1-cleft(1+0right)}=frac{b}{1-c}$$
to
$$lim_{ktoinfty}sigma(k)=lim_{ktoinfty}frac b{1-cleft(1+left(fracβαk^A-Bright)^{-1}right)}=frac{b}{1-cleft(1+frac{1-(b+c)}{c}right)}=1.$$
answered Jan 9 at 14:18
user376343user376343
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Thank you for your answer! :) If I try to give some numerical values to the function on Excel for the second case no problem, but when b+c are greater than 1, the block $k^{A}-B$ has a strange behaviour and assume negative values. I attach a pictures of the two cases here below: drive.google.com/open?id=11HPJcunadtpBUzmjFDCrbpGldMPW3BEL
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– Alessandro
Jan 9 at 15:53
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Only when the b is "high enough" and the value of c is "low enough" the right behaviour of sigma took place. drive.google.com/file/d/1hzIRYBuFufCJ1f0dCBKWuQl9JDCfHYEm/…
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– Alessandro
Jan 9 at 16:44
1
$begingroup$
Is there any relation between $alpha, beta$ and other constants?
$endgroup$
– user376343
Jan 9 at 18:09
1
$begingroup$
Indeed yep: $alpha = (1-delta )gamma ^{-rho }$ and $beta= delta gamma ^{-rho }$. Where $rho = frac{1}{b}-1$ and $0<delta<1$. But since in my case $gamma =1$ always their ratio should always be constant. Thank u so much for u help! :)
$endgroup$
– Alessandro
Jan 9 at 18:29
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Thank you for your answer! :) If I try to give some numerical values to the function on Excel for the second case no problem, but when b+c are greater than 1, the block $k^{A}-B$ has a strange behaviour and assume negative values. I attach a pictures of the two cases here below: drive.google.com/open?id=11HPJcunadtpBUzmjFDCrbpGldMPW3BEL
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– Alessandro
Jan 9 at 15:53
$begingroup$
Only when the b is "high enough" and the value of c is "low enough" the right behaviour of sigma took place. drive.google.com/file/d/1hzIRYBuFufCJ1f0dCBKWuQl9JDCfHYEm/…
$endgroup$
– Alessandro
Jan 9 at 16:44
1
$begingroup$
Is there any relation between $alpha, beta$ and other constants?
$endgroup$
– user376343
Jan 9 at 18:09
1
$begingroup$
Indeed yep: $alpha = (1-delta )gamma ^{-rho }$ and $beta= delta gamma ^{-rho }$. Where $rho = frac{1}{b}-1$ and $0<delta<1$. But since in my case $gamma =1$ always their ratio should always be constant. Thank u so much for u help! :)
$endgroup$
– Alessandro
Jan 9 at 18:29
$begingroup$
Thank you for your answer! :) If I try to give some numerical values to the function on Excel for the second case no problem, but when b+c are greater than 1, the block $k^{A}-B$ has a strange behaviour and assume negative values. I attach a pictures of the two cases here below: drive.google.com/open?id=11HPJcunadtpBUzmjFDCrbpGldMPW3BEL
$endgroup$
– Alessandro
Jan 9 at 15:53
$begingroup$
Thank you for your answer! :) If I try to give some numerical values to the function on Excel for the second case no problem, but when b+c are greater than 1, the block $k^{A}-B$ has a strange behaviour and assume negative values. I attach a pictures of the two cases here below: drive.google.com/open?id=11HPJcunadtpBUzmjFDCrbpGldMPW3BEL
$endgroup$
– Alessandro
Jan 9 at 15:53
$begingroup$
Only when the b is "high enough" and the value of c is "low enough" the right behaviour of sigma took place. drive.google.com/file/d/1hzIRYBuFufCJ1f0dCBKWuQl9JDCfHYEm/…
$endgroup$
– Alessandro
Jan 9 at 16:44
$begingroup$
Only when the b is "high enough" and the value of c is "low enough" the right behaviour of sigma took place. drive.google.com/file/d/1hzIRYBuFufCJ1f0dCBKWuQl9JDCfHYEm/…
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– Alessandro
Jan 9 at 16:44
1
1
$begingroup$
Is there any relation between $alpha, beta$ and other constants?
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– user376343
Jan 9 at 18:09
$begingroup$
Is there any relation between $alpha, beta$ and other constants?
$endgroup$
– user376343
Jan 9 at 18:09
1
1
$begingroup$
Indeed yep: $alpha = (1-delta )gamma ^{-rho }$ and $beta= delta gamma ^{-rho }$. Where $rho = frac{1}{b}-1$ and $0<delta<1$. But since in my case $gamma =1$ always their ratio should always be constant. Thank u so much for u help! :)
$endgroup$
– Alessandro
Jan 9 at 18:29
$begingroup$
Indeed yep: $alpha = (1-delta )gamma ^{-rho }$ and $beta= delta gamma ^{-rho }$. Where $rho = frac{1}{b}-1$ and $0<delta<1$. But since in my case $gamma =1$ always their ratio should always be constant. Thank u so much for u help! :)
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– Alessandro
Jan 9 at 18:29
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