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Investigate whether the given transformation is a monomorphism / epimorphism. Find its image and kernel.
$$ F in L(mathbb R[x]_3,mathbb R[x]_3), F(p)(t) = p(t+1) - p(t) $$



My try



Okay, let
$$ p(t) = ax^3 + bx^2 + cx + d $$
then
$$F(p)(t) = ... = 3ax^2 + 3ax + 2bx + 3 = x^2(3a)+x(3a+2b) +3 = a(3x^2+3x) + b(2x) + 3 $$
Is it monomorphism?
let $m_0 = 0 wedge m_1 = 3a wedge m_2 = 3a+b wedge m_3 = 3$


so $a = frac{m_1}{3} wedge b = frac{m_2-m_1}{2} $

so $a$ and $b$ are determined unambiguously so it is monomorphism


It is not epimorphism because $ x^3 inmathbb R[x]_3 $ but I can't get $x^3$ in use of $F$

$ker F = left{ 0 right} $ because of part $ 3 $ it will be never polynomial zero



If it comes to image, we checked that:
$$F(p)(t) = ... = a(3x^2+3x) + b(2x) + 3 $$
so $ im(F) = span(3x^2+3,2x,3) $
Moreover this system is lineary independent so $rank(F) = 3$



Have I done this correctly? Or there is something to fix?






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    I have serious doubts - I will be very grateful if someone will help me here



    Investigate whether the given transformation is a monomorphism / epimorphism. Find its image and kernel.
    $$ F in L(mathbb R[x]_3,mathbb R[x]_3), F(p)(t) = p(t+1) - p(t) $$



    My try



    Okay, let
    $$ p(t) = ax^3 + bx^2 + cx + d $$
    then
    $$F(p)(t) = ... = 3ax^2 + 3ax + 2bx + 3 = x^2(3a)+x(3a+2b) +3 = a(3x^2+3x) + b(2x) + 3 $$
    Is it monomorphism?
    let $m_0 = 0 wedge m_1 = 3a wedge m_2 = 3a+b wedge m_3 = 3$


    so $a = frac{m_1}{3} wedge b = frac{m_2-m_1}{2} $

    so $a$ and $b$ are determined unambiguously so it is monomorphism


    It is not epimorphism because $ x^3 inmathbb R[x]_3 $ but I can't get $x^3$ in use of $F$

    $ker F = left{ 0 right} $ because of part $ 3 $ it will be never polynomial zero



    If it comes to image, we checked that:
    $$F(p)(t) = ... = a(3x^2+3x) + b(2x) + 3 $$
    so $ im(F) = span(3x^2+3,2x,3) $
    Moreover this system is lineary independent so $rank(F) = 3$



    Have I done this correctly? Or there is something to fix?






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      I have serious doubts - I will be very grateful if someone will help me here



      Investigate whether the given transformation is a monomorphism / epimorphism. Find its image and kernel.
      $$ F in L(mathbb R[x]_3,mathbb R[x]_3), F(p)(t) = p(t+1) - p(t) $$



      My try



      Okay, let
      $$ p(t) = ax^3 + bx^2 + cx + d $$
      then
      $$F(p)(t) = ... = 3ax^2 + 3ax + 2bx + 3 = x^2(3a)+x(3a+2b) +3 = a(3x^2+3x) + b(2x) + 3 $$
      Is it monomorphism?
      let $m_0 = 0 wedge m_1 = 3a wedge m_2 = 3a+b wedge m_3 = 3$


      so $a = frac{m_1}{3} wedge b = frac{m_2-m_1}{2} $

      so $a$ and $b$ are determined unambiguously so it is monomorphism


      It is not epimorphism because $ x^3 inmathbb R[x]_3 $ but I can't get $x^3$ in use of $F$

      $ker F = left{ 0 right} $ because of part $ 3 $ it will be never polynomial zero



      If it comes to image, we checked that:
      $$F(p)(t) = ... = a(3x^2+3x) + b(2x) + 3 $$
      so $ im(F) = span(3x^2+3,2x,3) $
      Moreover this system is lineary independent so $rank(F) = 3$



      Have I done this correctly? Or there is something to fix?






      linear-algebra monomorphisms







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      I have serious doubts - I will be very grateful if someone will help me here



      Investigate whether the given transformation is a monomorphism / epimorphism. Find its image and kernel.
      $$ F in L(mathbb R[x]_3,mathbb R[x]_3), F(p)(t) = p(t+1) - p(t) $$



      My try



      Okay, let
      $$ p(t) = ax^3 + bx^2 + cx + d $$
      then
      $$F(p)(t) = ... = 3ax^2 + 3ax + 2bx + 3 = x^2(3a)+x(3a+2b) +3 = a(3x^2+3x) + b(2x) + 3 $$
      Is it monomorphism?
      let $m_0 = 0 wedge m_1 = 3a wedge m_2 = 3a+b wedge m_3 = 3$


      so $a = frac{m_1}{3} wedge b = frac{m_2-m_1}{2} $

      so $a$ and $b$ are determined unambiguously so it is monomorphism


      It is not epimorphism because $ x^3 inmathbb R[x]_3 $ but I can't get $x^3$ in use of $F$

      $ker F = left{ 0 right} $ because of part $ 3 $ it will be never polynomial zero



      If it comes to image, we checked that:
      $$F(p)(t) = ... = a(3x^2+3x) + b(2x) + 3 $$
      so $ im(F) = span(3x^2+3,2x,3) $
      Moreover this system is lineary independent so $rank(F) = 3$



      Have I done this correctly? Or there is something to fix?






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          You have a contradiction in your solution: if the map is injective it must also be surjective, because it is a linear map of a finite dimensional vector space to itself.



          It's much easier with matrices. If you consider the standard basis ${p_0=1,p_1=t,p_2=t^2,p_3=t^3}$, then you see that
          $$
          F(p_0)=0,quad
          F(p_1)=1,quad
          F(p_2)=2t+1quad
          F(p_3)=3t^2+3t+1
          $$
          and therefore the matrix of $F$ is
          begin{bmatrix}
          0 & 1 & 1 & 1 \
          0 & 0 & 2 & 3 \
          0 & 0 & 0 & 3 \
          0 & 0 & 0 & 0
          end{bmatrix}



          What's the rank of this matrix?




          Where did you go wrong? The image of $p(t)=at^3+bt^2+ct+d$ is
          begin{align}
          p(t+1)-p(t)
          &=at^3+3at^2+3at+a+bt^2+2bt+b+ct+d-at^3-bt^2-ct-d\
          &=3at^2+(3a+2b)t+(a+b+c)
          end{align}
          which is zero when
          begin{cases}
          3a=0\
          3a+2b=0\
          a+b+c=0
          end{cases}
          so when $a=b=c=0$. But $d$ can be anything. Thus the nullity is $1$ and the rank is $3$.






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          • rank of this matrix is 3. Can you point me which poin twhere exactly do I have the mistake?
            – VirtualUser
            Jan 4 at 16:30












          • @VirtualUser The rank is $3$.
            – egreg
            Jan 4 at 16:31










          • Yes, stupid mistake, I had on mind $3$. But what with the moment of mistake?
            – VirtualUser
            Jan 4 at 16:34












          • @VirtualUser I added the analysis.
            – egreg
            Jan 4 at 16:36










          • Ahh, there is mistake but in calculating. It is not good but still better than mistake in understanding the problem. Anyway, thanks for tip and analysis
            – VirtualUser
            Jan 4 at 16:45











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          You have a contradiction in your solution: if the map is injective it must also be surjective, because it is a linear map of a finite dimensional vector space to itself.



          It's much easier with matrices. If you consider the standard basis ${p_0=1,p_1=t,p_2=t^2,p_3=t^3}$, then you see that
          $$
          F(p_0)=0,quad
          F(p_1)=1,quad
          F(p_2)=2t+1quad
          F(p_3)=3t^2+3t+1
          $$
          and therefore the matrix of $F$ is
          begin{bmatrix}
          0 & 1 & 1 & 1 \
          0 & 0 & 2 & 3 \
          0 & 0 & 0 & 3 \
          0 & 0 & 0 & 0
          end{bmatrix}



          What's the rank of this matrix?




          Where did you go wrong? The image of $p(t)=at^3+bt^2+ct+d$ is
          begin{align}
          p(t+1)-p(t)
          &=at^3+3at^2+3at+a+bt^2+2bt+b+ct+d-at^3-bt^2-ct-d\
          &=3at^2+(3a+2b)t+(a+b+c)
          end{align}
          which is zero when
          begin{cases}
          3a=0\
          3a+2b=0\
          a+b+c=0
          end{cases}
          so when $a=b=c=0$. But $d$ can be anything. Thus the nullity is $1$ and the rank is $3$.






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          • rank of this matrix is 3. Can you point me which poin twhere exactly do I have the mistake?
            – VirtualUser
            Jan 4 at 16:30












          • @VirtualUser The rank is $3$.
            – egreg
            Jan 4 at 16:31










          • Yes, stupid mistake, I had on mind $3$. But what with the moment of mistake?
            – VirtualUser
            Jan 4 at 16:34












          • @VirtualUser I added the analysis.
            – egreg
            Jan 4 at 16:36










          • Ahh, there is mistake but in calculating. It is not good but still better than mistake in understanding the problem. Anyway, thanks for tip and analysis
            – VirtualUser
            Jan 4 at 16:45
















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          You have a contradiction in your solution: if the map is injective it must also be surjective, because it is a linear map of a finite dimensional vector space to itself.



          It's much easier with matrices. If you consider the standard basis ${p_0=1,p_1=t,p_2=t^2,p_3=t^3}$, then you see that
          $$
          F(p_0)=0,quad
          F(p_1)=1,quad
          F(p_2)=2t+1quad
          F(p_3)=3t^2+3t+1
          $$
          and therefore the matrix of $F$ is
          begin{bmatrix}
          0 & 1 & 1 & 1 \
          0 & 0 & 2 & 3 \
          0 & 0 & 0 & 3 \
          0 & 0 & 0 & 0
          end{bmatrix}



          What's the rank of this matrix?




          Where did you go wrong? The image of $p(t)=at^3+bt^2+ct+d$ is
          begin{align}
          p(t+1)-p(t)
          &=at^3+3at^2+3at+a+bt^2+2bt+b+ct+d-at^3-bt^2-ct-d\
          &=3at^2+(3a+2b)t+(a+b+c)
          end{align}
          which is zero when
          begin{cases}
          3a=0\
          3a+2b=0\
          a+b+c=0
          end{cases}
          so when $a=b=c=0$. But $d$ can be anything. Thus the nullity is $1$ and the rank is $3$.






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          • rank of this matrix is 3. Can you point me which poin twhere exactly do I have the mistake?
            – VirtualUser
            Jan 4 at 16:30












          • @VirtualUser The rank is $3$.
            – egreg
            Jan 4 at 16:31










          • Yes, stupid mistake, I had on mind $3$. But what with the moment of mistake?
            – VirtualUser
            Jan 4 at 16:34












          • @VirtualUser I added the analysis.
            – egreg
            Jan 4 at 16:36










          • Ahh, there is mistake but in calculating. It is not good but still better than mistake in understanding the problem. Anyway, thanks for tip and analysis
            – VirtualUser
            Jan 4 at 16:45














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          You have a contradiction in your solution: if the map is injective it must also be surjective, because it is a linear map of a finite dimensional vector space to itself.



          It's much easier with matrices. If you consider the standard basis ${p_0=1,p_1=t,p_2=t^2,p_3=t^3}$, then you see that
          $$
          F(p_0)=0,quad
          F(p_1)=1,quad
          F(p_2)=2t+1quad
          F(p_3)=3t^2+3t+1
          $$
          and therefore the matrix of $F$ is
          begin{bmatrix}
          0 & 1 & 1 & 1 \
          0 & 0 & 2 & 3 \
          0 & 0 & 0 & 3 \
          0 & 0 & 0 & 0
          end{bmatrix}



          What's the rank of this matrix?




          Where did you go wrong? The image of $p(t)=at^3+bt^2+ct+d$ is
          begin{align}
          p(t+1)-p(t)
          &=at^3+3at^2+3at+a+bt^2+2bt+b+ct+d-at^3-bt^2-ct-d\
          &=3at^2+(3a+2b)t+(a+b+c)
          end{align}
          which is zero when
          begin{cases}
          3a=0\
          3a+2b=0\
          a+b+c=0
          end{cases}
          so when $a=b=c=0$. But $d$ can be anything. Thus the nullity is $1$ and the rank is $3$.






          share|cite|improve this answer














          You have a contradiction in your solution: if the map is injective it must also be surjective, because it is a linear map of a finite dimensional vector space to itself.



          It's much easier with matrices. If you consider the standard basis ${p_0=1,p_1=t,p_2=t^2,p_3=t^3}$, then you see that
          $$
          F(p_0)=0,quad
          F(p_1)=1,quad
          F(p_2)=2t+1quad
          F(p_3)=3t^2+3t+1
          $$
          and therefore the matrix of $F$ is
          begin{bmatrix}
          0 & 1 & 1 & 1 \
          0 & 0 & 2 & 3 \
          0 & 0 & 0 & 3 \
          0 & 0 & 0 & 0
          end{bmatrix}



          What's the rank of this matrix?




          Where did you go wrong? The image of $p(t)=at^3+bt^2+ct+d$ is
          begin{align}
          p(t+1)-p(t)
          &=at^3+3at^2+3at+a+bt^2+2bt+b+ct+d-at^3-bt^2-ct-d\
          &=3at^2+(3a+2b)t+(a+b+c)
          end{align}
          which is zero when
          begin{cases}
          3a=0\
          3a+2b=0\
          a+b+c=0
          end{cases}
          so when $a=b=c=0$. But $d$ can be anything. Thus the nullity is $1$ and the rank is $3$.







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          • rank of this matrix is 3. Can you point me which poin twhere exactly do I have the mistake?
            – VirtualUser
            Jan 4 at 16:30












          • @VirtualUser The rank is $3$.
            – egreg
            Jan 4 at 16:31










          • Yes, stupid mistake, I had on mind $3$. But what with the moment of mistake?
            – VirtualUser
            Jan 4 at 16:34












          • @VirtualUser I added the analysis.
            – egreg
            Jan 4 at 16:36










          • Ahh, there is mistake but in calculating. It is not good but still better than mistake in understanding the problem. Anyway, thanks for tip and analysis
            – VirtualUser
            Jan 4 at 16:45


















          • rank of this matrix is 3. Can you point me which poin twhere exactly do I have the mistake?
            – VirtualUser
            Jan 4 at 16:30












          • @VirtualUser The rank is $3$.
            – egreg
            Jan 4 at 16:31










          • Yes, stupid mistake, I had on mind $3$. But what with the moment of mistake?
            – VirtualUser
            Jan 4 at 16:34












          • @VirtualUser I added the analysis.
            – egreg
            Jan 4 at 16:36










          • Ahh, there is mistake but in calculating. It is not good but still better than mistake in understanding the problem. Anyway, thanks for tip and analysis
            – VirtualUser
            Jan 4 at 16:45
















          rank of this matrix is 3. Can you point me which poin twhere exactly do I have the mistake?
          – VirtualUser
          Jan 4 at 16:30






          rank of this matrix is 3. Can you point me which poin twhere exactly do I have the mistake?
          – VirtualUser
          Jan 4 at 16:30














          @VirtualUser The rank is $3$.
          – egreg
          Jan 4 at 16:31




          @VirtualUser The rank is $3$.
          – egreg
          Jan 4 at 16:31












          Yes, stupid mistake, I had on mind $3$. But what with the moment of mistake?
          – VirtualUser
          Jan 4 at 16:34






          Yes, stupid mistake, I had on mind $3$. But what with the moment of mistake?
          – VirtualUser
          Jan 4 at 16:34














          @VirtualUser I added the analysis.
          – egreg
          Jan 4 at 16:36




          @VirtualUser I added the analysis.
          – egreg
          Jan 4 at 16:36












          Ahh, there is mistake but in calculating. It is not good but still better than mistake in understanding the problem. Anyway, thanks for tip and analysis
          – VirtualUser
          Jan 4 at 16:45




          Ahh, there is mistake but in calculating. It is not good but still better than mistake in understanding the problem. Anyway, thanks for tip and analysis
          – VirtualUser
          Jan 4 at 16:45


















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