Solving $2arctan(x) + arcsin(frac{2x}{1+x^2}) = pi$ [on hold]
We know that $x$ is a real number and I need to find all $x$ values that satisfy this equation:
$$2arctan(x) + arcsinleft(frac{2x}{1+x^2}right) = pi$$
I started with $u=arctan(x)$ and $v=arcsinleft(frac{2x}{1+x^2}right)$
So $2u+v=pi$
How to continue?
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We know that $x$ is a real number and I need to find all $x$ values that satisfy this equation:
$$2arctan(x) + arcsinleft(frac{2x}{1+x^2}right) = pi$$
I started with $u=arctan(x)$ and $v=arcsinleft(frac{2x}{1+x^2}right)$
So $2u+v=pi$
How to continue?
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Do you have any constraints on $x$ other than $xinmathbb{R}$? This statement is false in general.
– robjohn♦
Jan 3 at 22:52
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arcsin and arctan have a limited domain. Start there.
– KMoy
Jan 3 at 22:53
No, all I know is that x∈R and the right answer is [1,infinity)
– Vali RO
Jan 3 at 22:53
Notice that $frac{2x}{1+x^2}$ is increasing for $xin[0,1]$ and decreasing for $xge1$. Since $arctan(x)$ is increasing for $xge0$, this should indicate some domain limiting is needed.
– robjohn♦
Jan 3 at 22:55
I tried to put the conditions that -1<=2x/(1+x^2)<=1 but I didn't get too far.
– Vali RO
Jan 3 at 22:56
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We know that $x$ is a real number and I need to find all $x$ values that satisfy this equation:
$$2arctan(x) + arcsinleft(frac{2x}{1+x^2}right) = pi$$
I started with $u=arctan(x)$ and $v=arcsinleft(frac{2x}{1+x^2}right)$
So $2u+v=pi$
How to continue?
trigonometry
New contributor
We know that $x$ is a real number and I need to find all $x$ values that satisfy this equation:
$$2arctan(x) + arcsinleft(frac{2x}{1+x^2}right) = pi$$
I started with $u=arctan(x)$ and $v=arcsinleft(frac{2x}{1+x^2}right)$
So $2u+v=pi$
How to continue?
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Do you have any constraints on $x$ other than $xinmathbb{R}$? This statement is false in general.
– robjohn♦
Jan 3 at 22:52
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arcsin and arctan have a limited domain. Start there.
– KMoy
Jan 3 at 22:53
No, all I know is that x∈R and the right answer is [1,infinity)
– Vali RO
Jan 3 at 22:53
Notice that $frac{2x}{1+x^2}$ is increasing for $xin[0,1]$ and decreasing for $xge1$. Since $arctan(x)$ is increasing for $xge0$, this should indicate some domain limiting is needed.
– robjohn♦
Jan 3 at 22:55
I tried to put the conditions that -1<=2x/(1+x^2)<=1 but I didn't get too far.
– Vali RO
Jan 3 at 22:56
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Do you have any constraints on $x$ other than $xinmathbb{R}$? This statement is false in general.
– robjohn♦
Jan 3 at 22:52
1
arcsin and arctan have a limited domain. Start there.
– KMoy
Jan 3 at 22:53
No, all I know is that x∈R and the right answer is [1,infinity)
– Vali RO
Jan 3 at 22:53
Notice that $frac{2x}{1+x^2}$ is increasing for $xin[0,1]$ and decreasing for $xge1$. Since $arctan(x)$ is increasing for $xge0$, this should indicate some domain limiting is needed.
– robjohn♦
Jan 3 at 22:55
I tried to put the conditions that -1<=2x/(1+x^2)<=1 but I didn't get too far.
– Vali RO
Jan 3 at 22:56
1
1
Do you have any constraints on $x$ other than $xinmathbb{R}$? This statement is false in general.
– robjohn♦
Jan 3 at 22:52
Do you have any constraints on $x$ other than $xinmathbb{R}$? This statement is false in general.
– robjohn♦
Jan 3 at 22:52
1
1
arcsin and arctan have a limited domain. Start there.
– KMoy
Jan 3 at 22:53
arcsin and arctan have a limited domain. Start there.
– KMoy
Jan 3 at 22:53
No, all I know is that x∈R and the right answer is [1,infinity)
– Vali RO
Jan 3 at 22:53
No, all I know is that x∈R and the right answer is [1,infinity)
– Vali RO
Jan 3 at 22:53
Notice that $frac{2x}{1+x^2}$ is increasing for $xin[0,1]$ and decreasing for $xge1$. Since $arctan(x)$ is increasing for $xge0$, this should indicate some domain limiting is needed.
– robjohn♦
Jan 3 at 22:55
Notice that $frac{2x}{1+x^2}$ is increasing for $xin[0,1]$ and decreasing for $xge1$. Since $arctan(x)$ is increasing for $xge0$, this should indicate some domain limiting is needed.
– robjohn♦
Jan 3 at 22:55
I tried to put the conditions that -1<=2x/(1+x^2)<=1 but I didn't get too far.
– Vali RO
Jan 3 at 22:56
I tried to put the conditions that -1<=2x/(1+x^2)<=1 but I didn't get too far.
– Vali RO
Jan 3 at 22:56
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Consider
$$
f(x)=2arctan x+arcsinfrac{2x}{1+x^2}
$$
whose domain is the whole real line, because $|2x|<1+x^2$ for every $x$.
Then
$$
f'(x)=frac{2}{1+x^2}+frac{2}{sqrt{1-dfrac{4x^2}{(1+x^2)^2}}}frac{1+x^2-2x^2}{(1+x^2)^2}=frac{2}{1+x^2}left(1+frac{1-x^2}{|1-x^2|}right)
$$
for $xnepm1$. Therefore
$$
f'(x)=begin{cases}
dfrac{4}{1+x^2} & |x|<1 \[6px]
0 & |x|>1
end{cases}
$$
which means that
$$
f(x)=begin{cases}
c_- & x<-1 \[4px]
c_0+4arctan x & -1le xle 1 \[4px]
c_+ & x>1
end{cases}
$$
Determine $c_-$, $c_0$ and $c_+$ and you'll have your answer.
A different style. Let $2v=arcsin(2x/(1+x^2))$. Then, with a simple derivation,
$$
x=frac{1pmcos 2v}{sin 2v}
$$
The “$+$” case yields
$$
x=frac{1+2cos^2v-1}{2sin vcos v}=cot v
$$
The “$-$” case yields
$$
x=frac{1-1+2sin^2v}{2sin vcos v}=tan v
$$
Since $-pi/2le 2vlepi/2$, we have $-pi/4le vle pi/4$. Thus we have $x=cot v$ for $|x|ge 1$ and $x=tan v$ for $|x|le 1$.
For $|x|le 1$, we have
$$
f(x)=2arctantan v+2v=4v=2arcsinfrac{2x}{1+x^2}
$$
For $x>1$, we have
$$
f(x)=2arctancot v+2v=2(pi/2-v)+2v=pi
$$
For $x<-1$, we have
$$
f(x)=2(-pi/2-v)+2v=-pi
$$
Thank you for your help :)
– Vali RO
2 days ago
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Another way to solve the equation $$2arctan(x) + arcsinleft(frac{2x}{1+x^2}right) = pi$$ is to start with
$$u=arctan(x) implies uinleft(-frac{pi}{2},frac{pi}{2}right)$$ (because $arctan(x)$ is a bounded function). From the relation, it follows that $x=tan(u)$ and $$frac{2x}{1+x^2}=frac{2tan(u)}{1+tan^2(u)}=sin(2u)$$ so the equation becomes $$2u+arcsin(sin(2u))=pi mbox{ where }2uin (-pi,pi)$$
By definition of $arcsin$
$arcsin(sin(2u))=begin{cases}2u&mbox{if} uin left[-frac{pi}{4},frac{pi}{4}right)\ \ -pi-2u&mbox{if} uinleft(-frac{pi}{2},-frac{pi}{4}right)\ \ pi-2u&mbox{if} uinleft[frac{pi}{4},frac{pi}{2}right)end{cases}$
so
$2u+arcsin(sin(2u))=begin{cases}4u&mbox{if} uin left[-frac{pi}{4},frac{pi}{4}right)\ \ -pi&mbox{if} uinleft(-frac{pi}{2},-frac{pi}{4}right)\ \ pi&mbox{if} uinleft[frac{pi}{4},frac{pi}{2}right)end{cases}$
Hence the equation is true if and only if $$uin left[frac{pi}{4},frac{pi}{2}right)iff arctan(x)inleft[frac{pi}{4},frac{pi}{2}right).$$ This means that $frac{pi}{4}le arctan(x)<frac{pi}{2} implies xge 1$
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This is my way (+1)
– lab bhattacharjee
Jan 4 at 4:22
Thank so you so much for your help!I didn't understand 2 things.At the deefinition of arcsin.I know that arcsin(sinx)= x for x ∈ [-pi/2 , pi/2] so in this case u ∈ (-pi/4, pi/4).Why the interval is open and not closed [ ] ?.Also, from the equation arcsin(sin2u) = pi - 2u.Why this is also equal with -pi - 2u ?Last question, I don't understand why the last two intervals are (-pi/2, -pi/4) and (pi/4,pi/2).Thank you again!
– Vali RO
2 days ago
$arcsin(sin(2u))=2u iff uin left[-frac{pi}{4},frac{pi}{4}right]$, but I considered the intervals that way, only for my convenience. That's all. Note that I have modified my answer a bit to correct some typos.
– Ixion
2 days ago
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Put $x = tan theta$. Since $x geq 1$, $theta in left[pi/4, pi/2right)$
begin{align*}
arcsin left(frac{2x}{1+x^2}right) &= arcsinleft(frac{2tantheta}{1+tan^2theta}right) \
&= arcsin sin 2theta \
&= pi - 2theta
end{align*}
Where is it said that $xge1$? Establishing that might be a part of the question.
– robjohn♦
Jan 3 at 23:13
Thank you for your response :)
– Vali RO
2 days ago
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HINT
To begin with, I'd like to remember you the following trigonometric identity:
begin{align*}
tan(2x) = frac{2tan(x)}{1-tan^{2}(x)}
end{align*}
As a consequence, the given equation results into
begin{align*}
& 2arctan(x) + arcsinleft(frac{2x}{x^{2}+1}right) = pi Leftrightarrow tan(2arctan(x)) = tanleft(pi - arcsinleft(frac{2x}{x^{2}+1}right)right)\
& Leftrightarrow frac{2tan(arctan(x))}{1 - tan^{2}(arctan(x))} + frac{displaystylesinleft(arcsinleft(frac{2x}{1+x^{2}}right)right)}{displaystylesqrt{1 - sin^{2}left(arcsinleft(frac{2x}{1+x^{2}}right)right)}} = frac{2x}{1-x^{2}} + frac{2x}{|1-x^{2}|} = 0
end{align*}
Can you take it from here?
Yes, thanks a lot for your help :)
– Vali RO
2 days ago
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Consider
$$
f(x)=2arctan x+arcsinfrac{2x}{1+x^2}
$$
whose domain is the whole real line, because $|2x|<1+x^2$ for every $x$.
Then
$$
f'(x)=frac{2}{1+x^2}+frac{2}{sqrt{1-dfrac{4x^2}{(1+x^2)^2}}}frac{1+x^2-2x^2}{(1+x^2)^2}=frac{2}{1+x^2}left(1+frac{1-x^2}{|1-x^2|}right)
$$
for $xnepm1$. Therefore
$$
f'(x)=begin{cases}
dfrac{4}{1+x^2} & |x|<1 \[6px]
0 & |x|>1
end{cases}
$$
which means that
$$
f(x)=begin{cases}
c_- & x<-1 \[4px]
c_0+4arctan x & -1le xle 1 \[4px]
c_+ & x>1
end{cases}
$$
Determine $c_-$, $c_0$ and $c_+$ and you'll have your answer.
A different style. Let $2v=arcsin(2x/(1+x^2))$. Then, with a simple derivation,
$$
x=frac{1pmcos 2v}{sin 2v}
$$
The “$+$” case yields
$$
x=frac{1+2cos^2v-1}{2sin vcos v}=cot v
$$
The “$-$” case yields
$$
x=frac{1-1+2sin^2v}{2sin vcos v}=tan v
$$
Since $-pi/2le 2vlepi/2$, we have $-pi/4le vle pi/4$. Thus we have $x=cot v$ for $|x|ge 1$ and $x=tan v$ for $|x|le 1$.
For $|x|le 1$, we have
$$
f(x)=2arctantan v+2v=4v=2arcsinfrac{2x}{1+x^2}
$$
For $x>1$, we have
$$
f(x)=2arctancot v+2v=2(pi/2-v)+2v=pi
$$
For $x<-1$, we have
$$
f(x)=2(-pi/2-v)+2v=-pi
$$
Thank you for your help :)
– Vali RO
2 days ago
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Consider
$$
f(x)=2arctan x+arcsinfrac{2x}{1+x^2}
$$
whose domain is the whole real line, because $|2x|<1+x^2$ for every $x$.
Then
$$
f'(x)=frac{2}{1+x^2}+frac{2}{sqrt{1-dfrac{4x^2}{(1+x^2)^2}}}frac{1+x^2-2x^2}{(1+x^2)^2}=frac{2}{1+x^2}left(1+frac{1-x^2}{|1-x^2|}right)
$$
for $xnepm1$. Therefore
$$
f'(x)=begin{cases}
dfrac{4}{1+x^2} & |x|<1 \[6px]
0 & |x|>1
end{cases}
$$
which means that
$$
f(x)=begin{cases}
c_- & x<-1 \[4px]
c_0+4arctan x & -1le xle 1 \[4px]
c_+ & x>1
end{cases}
$$
Determine $c_-$, $c_0$ and $c_+$ and you'll have your answer.
A different style. Let $2v=arcsin(2x/(1+x^2))$. Then, with a simple derivation,
$$
x=frac{1pmcos 2v}{sin 2v}
$$
The “$+$” case yields
$$
x=frac{1+2cos^2v-1}{2sin vcos v}=cot v
$$
The “$-$” case yields
$$
x=frac{1-1+2sin^2v}{2sin vcos v}=tan v
$$
Since $-pi/2le 2vlepi/2$, we have $-pi/4le vle pi/4$. Thus we have $x=cot v$ for $|x|ge 1$ and $x=tan v$ for $|x|le 1$.
For $|x|le 1$, we have
$$
f(x)=2arctantan v+2v=4v=2arcsinfrac{2x}{1+x^2}
$$
For $x>1$, we have
$$
f(x)=2arctancot v+2v=2(pi/2-v)+2v=pi
$$
For $x<-1$, we have
$$
f(x)=2(-pi/2-v)+2v=-pi
$$
Thank you for your help :)
– Vali RO
2 days ago
add a comment |
Consider
$$
f(x)=2arctan x+arcsinfrac{2x}{1+x^2}
$$
whose domain is the whole real line, because $|2x|<1+x^2$ for every $x$.
Then
$$
f'(x)=frac{2}{1+x^2}+frac{2}{sqrt{1-dfrac{4x^2}{(1+x^2)^2}}}frac{1+x^2-2x^2}{(1+x^2)^2}=frac{2}{1+x^2}left(1+frac{1-x^2}{|1-x^2|}right)
$$
for $xnepm1$. Therefore
$$
f'(x)=begin{cases}
dfrac{4}{1+x^2} & |x|<1 \[6px]
0 & |x|>1
end{cases}
$$
which means that
$$
f(x)=begin{cases}
c_- & x<-1 \[4px]
c_0+4arctan x & -1le xle 1 \[4px]
c_+ & x>1
end{cases}
$$
Determine $c_-$, $c_0$ and $c_+$ and you'll have your answer.
A different style. Let $2v=arcsin(2x/(1+x^2))$. Then, with a simple derivation,
$$
x=frac{1pmcos 2v}{sin 2v}
$$
The “$+$” case yields
$$
x=frac{1+2cos^2v-1}{2sin vcos v}=cot v
$$
The “$-$” case yields
$$
x=frac{1-1+2sin^2v}{2sin vcos v}=tan v
$$
Since $-pi/2le 2vlepi/2$, we have $-pi/4le vle pi/4$. Thus we have $x=cot v$ for $|x|ge 1$ and $x=tan v$ for $|x|le 1$.
For $|x|le 1$, we have
$$
f(x)=2arctantan v+2v=4v=2arcsinfrac{2x}{1+x^2}
$$
For $x>1$, we have
$$
f(x)=2arctancot v+2v=2(pi/2-v)+2v=pi
$$
For $x<-1$, we have
$$
f(x)=2(-pi/2-v)+2v=-pi
$$
Consider
$$
f(x)=2arctan x+arcsinfrac{2x}{1+x^2}
$$
whose domain is the whole real line, because $|2x|<1+x^2$ for every $x$.
Then
$$
f'(x)=frac{2}{1+x^2}+frac{2}{sqrt{1-dfrac{4x^2}{(1+x^2)^2}}}frac{1+x^2-2x^2}{(1+x^2)^2}=frac{2}{1+x^2}left(1+frac{1-x^2}{|1-x^2|}right)
$$
for $xnepm1$. Therefore
$$
f'(x)=begin{cases}
dfrac{4}{1+x^2} & |x|<1 \[6px]
0 & |x|>1
end{cases}
$$
which means that
$$
f(x)=begin{cases}
c_- & x<-1 \[4px]
c_0+4arctan x & -1le xle 1 \[4px]
c_+ & x>1
end{cases}
$$
Determine $c_-$, $c_0$ and $c_+$ and you'll have your answer.
A different style. Let $2v=arcsin(2x/(1+x^2))$. Then, with a simple derivation,
$$
x=frac{1pmcos 2v}{sin 2v}
$$
The “$+$” case yields
$$
x=frac{1+2cos^2v-1}{2sin vcos v}=cot v
$$
The “$-$” case yields
$$
x=frac{1-1+2sin^2v}{2sin vcos v}=tan v
$$
Since $-pi/2le 2vlepi/2$, we have $-pi/4le vle pi/4$. Thus we have $x=cot v$ for $|x|ge 1$ and $x=tan v$ for $|x|le 1$.
For $|x|le 1$, we have
$$
f(x)=2arctantan v+2v=4v=2arcsinfrac{2x}{1+x^2}
$$
For $x>1$, we have
$$
f(x)=2arctancot v+2v=2(pi/2-v)+2v=pi
$$
For $x<-1$, we have
$$
f(x)=2(-pi/2-v)+2v=-pi
$$
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Thank you for your help :)
– Vali RO
2 days ago
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Thank you for your help :)
– Vali RO
2 days ago
Thank you for your help :)
– Vali RO
2 days ago
Thank you for your help :)
– Vali RO
2 days ago
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Another way to solve the equation $$2arctan(x) + arcsinleft(frac{2x}{1+x^2}right) = pi$$ is to start with
$$u=arctan(x) implies uinleft(-frac{pi}{2},frac{pi}{2}right)$$ (because $arctan(x)$ is a bounded function). From the relation, it follows that $x=tan(u)$ and $$frac{2x}{1+x^2}=frac{2tan(u)}{1+tan^2(u)}=sin(2u)$$ so the equation becomes $$2u+arcsin(sin(2u))=pi mbox{ where }2uin (-pi,pi)$$
By definition of $arcsin$
$arcsin(sin(2u))=begin{cases}2u&mbox{if} uin left[-frac{pi}{4},frac{pi}{4}right)\ \ -pi-2u&mbox{if} uinleft(-frac{pi}{2},-frac{pi}{4}right)\ \ pi-2u&mbox{if} uinleft[frac{pi}{4},frac{pi}{2}right)end{cases}$
so
$2u+arcsin(sin(2u))=begin{cases}4u&mbox{if} uin left[-frac{pi}{4},frac{pi}{4}right)\ \ -pi&mbox{if} uinleft(-frac{pi}{2},-frac{pi}{4}right)\ \ pi&mbox{if} uinleft[frac{pi}{4},frac{pi}{2}right)end{cases}$
Hence the equation is true if and only if $$uin left[frac{pi}{4},frac{pi}{2}right)iff arctan(x)inleft[frac{pi}{4},frac{pi}{2}right).$$ This means that $frac{pi}{4}le arctan(x)<frac{pi}{2} implies xge 1$
1
This is my way (+1)
– lab bhattacharjee
Jan 4 at 4:22
Thank so you so much for your help!I didn't understand 2 things.At the deefinition of arcsin.I know that arcsin(sinx)= x for x ∈ [-pi/2 , pi/2] so in this case u ∈ (-pi/4, pi/4).Why the interval is open and not closed [ ] ?.Also, from the equation arcsin(sin2u) = pi - 2u.Why this is also equal with -pi - 2u ?Last question, I don't understand why the last two intervals are (-pi/2, -pi/4) and (pi/4,pi/2).Thank you again!
– Vali RO
2 days ago
$arcsin(sin(2u))=2u iff uin left[-frac{pi}{4},frac{pi}{4}right]$, but I considered the intervals that way, only for my convenience. That's all. Note that I have modified my answer a bit to correct some typos.
– Ixion
2 days ago
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Another way to solve the equation $$2arctan(x) + arcsinleft(frac{2x}{1+x^2}right) = pi$$ is to start with
$$u=arctan(x) implies uinleft(-frac{pi}{2},frac{pi}{2}right)$$ (because $arctan(x)$ is a bounded function). From the relation, it follows that $x=tan(u)$ and $$frac{2x}{1+x^2}=frac{2tan(u)}{1+tan^2(u)}=sin(2u)$$ so the equation becomes $$2u+arcsin(sin(2u))=pi mbox{ where }2uin (-pi,pi)$$
By definition of $arcsin$
$arcsin(sin(2u))=begin{cases}2u&mbox{if} uin left[-frac{pi}{4},frac{pi}{4}right)\ \ -pi-2u&mbox{if} uinleft(-frac{pi}{2},-frac{pi}{4}right)\ \ pi-2u&mbox{if} uinleft[frac{pi}{4},frac{pi}{2}right)end{cases}$
so
$2u+arcsin(sin(2u))=begin{cases}4u&mbox{if} uin left[-frac{pi}{4},frac{pi}{4}right)\ \ -pi&mbox{if} uinleft(-frac{pi}{2},-frac{pi}{4}right)\ \ pi&mbox{if} uinleft[frac{pi}{4},frac{pi}{2}right)end{cases}$
Hence the equation is true if and only if $$uin left[frac{pi}{4},frac{pi}{2}right)iff arctan(x)inleft[frac{pi}{4},frac{pi}{2}right).$$ This means that $frac{pi}{4}le arctan(x)<frac{pi}{2} implies xge 1$
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– lab bhattacharjee
Jan 4 at 4:22
Thank so you so much for your help!I didn't understand 2 things.At the deefinition of arcsin.I know that arcsin(sinx)= x for x ∈ [-pi/2 , pi/2] so in this case u ∈ (-pi/4, pi/4).Why the interval is open and not closed [ ] ?.Also, from the equation arcsin(sin2u) = pi - 2u.Why this is also equal with -pi - 2u ?Last question, I don't understand why the last two intervals are (-pi/2, -pi/4) and (pi/4,pi/2).Thank you again!
– Vali RO
2 days ago
$arcsin(sin(2u))=2u iff uin left[-frac{pi}{4},frac{pi}{4}right]$, but I considered the intervals that way, only for my convenience. That's all. Note that I have modified my answer a bit to correct some typos.
– Ixion
2 days ago
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Another way to solve the equation $$2arctan(x) + arcsinleft(frac{2x}{1+x^2}right) = pi$$ is to start with
$$u=arctan(x) implies uinleft(-frac{pi}{2},frac{pi}{2}right)$$ (because $arctan(x)$ is a bounded function). From the relation, it follows that $x=tan(u)$ and $$frac{2x}{1+x^2}=frac{2tan(u)}{1+tan^2(u)}=sin(2u)$$ so the equation becomes $$2u+arcsin(sin(2u))=pi mbox{ where }2uin (-pi,pi)$$
By definition of $arcsin$
$arcsin(sin(2u))=begin{cases}2u&mbox{if} uin left[-frac{pi}{4},frac{pi}{4}right)\ \ -pi-2u&mbox{if} uinleft(-frac{pi}{2},-frac{pi}{4}right)\ \ pi-2u&mbox{if} uinleft[frac{pi}{4},frac{pi}{2}right)end{cases}$
so
$2u+arcsin(sin(2u))=begin{cases}4u&mbox{if} uin left[-frac{pi}{4},frac{pi}{4}right)\ \ -pi&mbox{if} uinleft(-frac{pi}{2},-frac{pi}{4}right)\ \ pi&mbox{if} uinleft[frac{pi}{4},frac{pi}{2}right)end{cases}$
Hence the equation is true if and only if $$uin left[frac{pi}{4},frac{pi}{2}right)iff arctan(x)inleft[frac{pi}{4},frac{pi}{2}right).$$ This means that $frac{pi}{4}le arctan(x)<frac{pi}{2} implies xge 1$
Another way to solve the equation $$2arctan(x) + arcsinleft(frac{2x}{1+x^2}right) = pi$$ is to start with
$$u=arctan(x) implies uinleft(-frac{pi}{2},frac{pi}{2}right)$$ (because $arctan(x)$ is a bounded function). From the relation, it follows that $x=tan(u)$ and $$frac{2x}{1+x^2}=frac{2tan(u)}{1+tan^2(u)}=sin(2u)$$ so the equation becomes $$2u+arcsin(sin(2u))=pi mbox{ where }2uin (-pi,pi)$$
By definition of $arcsin$
$arcsin(sin(2u))=begin{cases}2u&mbox{if} uin left[-frac{pi}{4},frac{pi}{4}right)\ \ -pi-2u&mbox{if} uinleft(-frac{pi}{2},-frac{pi}{4}right)\ \ pi-2u&mbox{if} uinleft[frac{pi}{4},frac{pi}{2}right)end{cases}$
so
$2u+arcsin(sin(2u))=begin{cases}4u&mbox{if} uin left[-frac{pi}{4},frac{pi}{4}right)\ \ -pi&mbox{if} uinleft(-frac{pi}{2},-frac{pi}{4}right)\ \ pi&mbox{if} uinleft[frac{pi}{4},frac{pi}{2}right)end{cases}$
Hence the equation is true if and only if $$uin left[frac{pi}{4},frac{pi}{2}right)iff arctan(x)inleft[frac{pi}{4},frac{pi}{2}right).$$ This means that $frac{pi}{4}le arctan(x)<frac{pi}{2} implies xge 1$
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answered Jan 4 at 2:41
Ixion
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This is my way (+1)
– lab bhattacharjee
Jan 4 at 4:22
Thank so you so much for your help!I didn't understand 2 things.At the deefinition of arcsin.I know that arcsin(sinx)= x for x ∈ [-pi/2 , pi/2] so in this case u ∈ (-pi/4, pi/4).Why the interval is open and not closed [ ] ?.Also, from the equation arcsin(sin2u) = pi - 2u.Why this is also equal with -pi - 2u ?Last question, I don't understand why the last two intervals are (-pi/2, -pi/4) and (pi/4,pi/2).Thank you again!
– Vali RO
2 days ago
$arcsin(sin(2u))=2u iff uin left[-frac{pi}{4},frac{pi}{4}right]$, but I considered the intervals that way, only for my convenience. That's all. Note that I have modified my answer a bit to correct some typos.
– Ixion
2 days ago
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This is my way (+1)
– lab bhattacharjee
Jan 4 at 4:22
Thank so you so much for your help!I didn't understand 2 things.At the deefinition of arcsin.I know that arcsin(sinx)= x for x ∈ [-pi/2 , pi/2] so in this case u ∈ (-pi/4, pi/4).Why the interval is open and not closed [ ] ?.Also, from the equation arcsin(sin2u) = pi - 2u.Why this is also equal with -pi - 2u ?Last question, I don't understand why the last two intervals are (-pi/2, -pi/4) and (pi/4,pi/2).Thank you again!
– Vali RO
2 days ago
$arcsin(sin(2u))=2u iff uin left[-frac{pi}{4},frac{pi}{4}right]$, but I considered the intervals that way, only for my convenience. That's all. Note that I have modified my answer a bit to correct some typos.
– Ixion
2 days ago
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This is my way (+1)
– lab bhattacharjee
Jan 4 at 4:22
This is my way (+1)
– lab bhattacharjee
Jan 4 at 4:22
Thank so you so much for your help!I didn't understand 2 things.At the deefinition of arcsin.I know that arcsin(sinx)= x for x ∈ [-pi/2 , pi/2] so in this case u ∈ (-pi/4, pi/4).Why the interval is open and not closed [ ] ?.Also, from the equation arcsin(sin2u) = pi - 2u.Why this is also equal with -pi - 2u ?Last question, I don't understand why the last two intervals are (-pi/2, -pi/4) and (pi/4,pi/2).Thank you again!
– Vali RO
2 days ago
Thank so you so much for your help!I didn't understand 2 things.At the deefinition of arcsin.I know that arcsin(sinx)= x for x ∈ [-pi/2 , pi/2] so in this case u ∈ (-pi/4, pi/4).Why the interval is open and not closed [ ] ?.Also, from the equation arcsin(sin2u) = pi - 2u.Why this is also equal with -pi - 2u ?Last question, I don't understand why the last two intervals are (-pi/2, -pi/4) and (pi/4,pi/2).Thank you again!
– Vali RO
2 days ago
$arcsin(sin(2u))=2u iff uin left[-frac{pi}{4},frac{pi}{4}right]$, but I considered the intervals that way, only for my convenience. That's all. Note that I have modified my answer a bit to correct some typos.
– Ixion
2 days ago
$arcsin(sin(2u))=2u iff uin left[-frac{pi}{4},frac{pi}{4}right]$, but I considered the intervals that way, only for my convenience. That's all. Note that I have modified my answer a bit to correct some typos.
– Ixion
2 days ago
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Put $x = tan theta$. Since $x geq 1$, $theta in left[pi/4, pi/2right)$
begin{align*}
arcsin left(frac{2x}{1+x^2}right) &= arcsinleft(frac{2tantheta}{1+tan^2theta}right) \
&= arcsin sin 2theta \
&= pi - 2theta
end{align*}
Where is it said that $xge1$? Establishing that might be a part of the question.
– robjohn♦
Jan 3 at 23:13
Thank you for your response :)
– Vali RO
2 days ago
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Put $x = tan theta$. Since $x geq 1$, $theta in left[pi/4, pi/2right)$
begin{align*}
arcsin left(frac{2x}{1+x^2}right) &= arcsinleft(frac{2tantheta}{1+tan^2theta}right) \
&= arcsin sin 2theta \
&= pi - 2theta
end{align*}
Where is it said that $xge1$? Establishing that might be a part of the question.
– robjohn♦
Jan 3 at 23:13
Thank you for your response :)
– Vali RO
2 days ago
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Put $x = tan theta$. Since $x geq 1$, $theta in left[pi/4, pi/2right)$
begin{align*}
arcsin left(frac{2x}{1+x^2}right) &= arcsinleft(frac{2tantheta}{1+tan^2theta}right) \
&= arcsin sin 2theta \
&= pi - 2theta
end{align*}
Put $x = tan theta$. Since $x geq 1$, $theta in left[pi/4, pi/2right)$
begin{align*}
arcsin left(frac{2x}{1+x^2}right) &= arcsinleft(frac{2tantheta}{1+tan^2theta}right) \
&= arcsin sin 2theta \
&= pi - 2theta
end{align*}
answered Jan 3 at 22:57
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Where is it said that $xge1$? Establishing that might be a part of the question.
– robjohn♦
Jan 3 at 23:13
Thank you for your response :)
– Vali RO
2 days ago
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Where is it said that $xge1$? Establishing that might be a part of the question.
– robjohn♦
Jan 3 at 23:13
Thank you for your response :)
– Vali RO
2 days ago
Where is it said that $xge1$? Establishing that might be a part of the question.
– robjohn♦
Jan 3 at 23:13
Where is it said that $xge1$? Establishing that might be a part of the question.
– robjohn♦
Jan 3 at 23:13
Thank you for your response :)
– Vali RO
2 days ago
Thank you for your response :)
– Vali RO
2 days ago
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HINT
To begin with, I'd like to remember you the following trigonometric identity:
begin{align*}
tan(2x) = frac{2tan(x)}{1-tan^{2}(x)}
end{align*}
As a consequence, the given equation results into
begin{align*}
& 2arctan(x) + arcsinleft(frac{2x}{x^{2}+1}right) = pi Leftrightarrow tan(2arctan(x)) = tanleft(pi - arcsinleft(frac{2x}{x^{2}+1}right)right)\
& Leftrightarrow frac{2tan(arctan(x))}{1 - tan^{2}(arctan(x))} + frac{displaystylesinleft(arcsinleft(frac{2x}{1+x^{2}}right)right)}{displaystylesqrt{1 - sin^{2}left(arcsinleft(frac{2x}{1+x^{2}}right)right)}} = frac{2x}{1-x^{2}} + frac{2x}{|1-x^{2}|} = 0
end{align*}
Can you take it from here?
Yes, thanks a lot for your help :)
– Vali RO
2 days ago
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HINT
To begin with, I'd like to remember you the following trigonometric identity:
begin{align*}
tan(2x) = frac{2tan(x)}{1-tan^{2}(x)}
end{align*}
As a consequence, the given equation results into
begin{align*}
& 2arctan(x) + arcsinleft(frac{2x}{x^{2}+1}right) = pi Leftrightarrow tan(2arctan(x)) = tanleft(pi - arcsinleft(frac{2x}{x^{2}+1}right)right)\
& Leftrightarrow frac{2tan(arctan(x))}{1 - tan^{2}(arctan(x))} + frac{displaystylesinleft(arcsinleft(frac{2x}{1+x^{2}}right)right)}{displaystylesqrt{1 - sin^{2}left(arcsinleft(frac{2x}{1+x^{2}}right)right)}} = frac{2x}{1-x^{2}} + frac{2x}{|1-x^{2}|} = 0
end{align*}
Can you take it from here?
Yes, thanks a lot for your help :)
– Vali RO
2 days ago
add a comment |
HINT
To begin with, I'd like to remember you the following trigonometric identity:
begin{align*}
tan(2x) = frac{2tan(x)}{1-tan^{2}(x)}
end{align*}
As a consequence, the given equation results into
begin{align*}
& 2arctan(x) + arcsinleft(frac{2x}{x^{2}+1}right) = pi Leftrightarrow tan(2arctan(x)) = tanleft(pi - arcsinleft(frac{2x}{x^{2}+1}right)right)\
& Leftrightarrow frac{2tan(arctan(x))}{1 - tan^{2}(arctan(x))} + frac{displaystylesinleft(arcsinleft(frac{2x}{1+x^{2}}right)right)}{displaystylesqrt{1 - sin^{2}left(arcsinleft(frac{2x}{1+x^{2}}right)right)}} = frac{2x}{1-x^{2}} + frac{2x}{|1-x^{2}|} = 0
end{align*}
Can you take it from here?
HINT
To begin with, I'd like to remember you the following trigonometric identity:
begin{align*}
tan(2x) = frac{2tan(x)}{1-tan^{2}(x)}
end{align*}
As a consequence, the given equation results into
begin{align*}
& 2arctan(x) + arcsinleft(frac{2x}{x^{2}+1}right) = pi Leftrightarrow tan(2arctan(x)) = tanleft(pi - arcsinleft(frac{2x}{x^{2}+1}right)right)\
& Leftrightarrow frac{2tan(arctan(x))}{1 - tan^{2}(arctan(x))} + frac{displaystylesinleft(arcsinleft(frac{2x}{1+x^{2}}right)right)}{displaystylesqrt{1 - sin^{2}left(arcsinleft(frac{2x}{1+x^{2}}right)right)}} = frac{2x}{1-x^{2}} + frac{2x}{|1-x^{2}|} = 0
end{align*}
Can you take it from here?
edited Jan 4 at 0:52
answered Jan 4 at 0:43
APC89
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Yes, thanks a lot for your help :)
– Vali RO
2 days ago
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Yes, thanks a lot for your help :)
– Vali RO
2 days ago
Yes, thanks a lot for your help :)
– Vali RO
2 days ago
Yes, thanks a lot for your help :)
– Vali RO
2 days ago
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Do you have any constraints on $x$ other than $xinmathbb{R}$? This statement is false in general.
– robjohn♦
Jan 3 at 22:52
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arcsin and arctan have a limited domain. Start there.
– KMoy
Jan 3 at 22:53
No, all I know is that x∈R and the right answer is [1,infinity)
– Vali RO
Jan 3 at 22:53
Notice that $frac{2x}{1+x^2}$ is increasing for $xin[0,1]$ and decreasing for $xge1$. Since $arctan(x)$ is increasing for $xge0$, this should indicate some domain limiting is needed.
– robjohn♦
Jan 3 at 22:55
I tried to put the conditions that -1<=2x/(1+x^2)<=1 but I didn't get too far.
– Vali RO
Jan 3 at 22:56