Find the periodicity with the help of Laplace transform












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I have a function



$$x(t) = picos(21omega_0t)+0.1cos(39omega_0t)$$



that I want to solve T from the periodicity identity, $x(t)=x(t+T)$.



What I have tried now is basically just solving $x(t)=x(t+T)$, but this gets really complex. So I tried to do the laplace transform of the function in order to maybe find out a way of solving it more simple, the laplace transform is,



$$X(s) = pi frac{s}{s^2+(21omega_0)^2}+0.1frac{s}{s^2+(39omega_0)^2}$$



What struck me here is that I do not really know how to find the periodicity when I am in the frequency plane. I get a feeling it should be a better way of doing it than the latter, but how?










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    They are just sums of cosines with periods $T_1 = frac{2pi}{21omega_0}$ and $T_2 = frac{2pi}{39omega_0}$ so it is definitely periodic of period at most $T$ such that $T = nT_1 = mT_2$ for some integers $n$ and $m$. Simplifying a bit, we have $39n = 21m implies 3 cdot 13n = 3 cdot 7m implies 13n = 7m$ so the optimal integers are $n = 7, m = 13$. So $T = frac{2pi}{3omega_0}$.
    – Pratyush Sarkar
    Jan 4 at 8:52










  • Ohh, talking about making it more simple. Thank you!
    – Salviati
    Jan 4 at 8:55
















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I have a function



$$x(t) = picos(21omega_0t)+0.1cos(39omega_0t)$$



that I want to solve T from the periodicity identity, $x(t)=x(t+T)$.



What I have tried now is basically just solving $x(t)=x(t+T)$, but this gets really complex. So I tried to do the laplace transform of the function in order to maybe find out a way of solving it more simple, the laplace transform is,



$$X(s) = pi frac{s}{s^2+(21omega_0)^2}+0.1frac{s}{s^2+(39omega_0)^2}$$



What struck me here is that I do not really know how to find the periodicity when I am in the frequency plane. I get a feeling it should be a better way of doing it than the latter, but how?










share|cite|improve this question


















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    They are just sums of cosines with periods $T_1 = frac{2pi}{21omega_0}$ and $T_2 = frac{2pi}{39omega_0}$ so it is definitely periodic of period at most $T$ such that $T = nT_1 = mT_2$ for some integers $n$ and $m$. Simplifying a bit, we have $39n = 21m implies 3 cdot 13n = 3 cdot 7m implies 13n = 7m$ so the optimal integers are $n = 7, m = 13$. So $T = frac{2pi}{3omega_0}$.
    – Pratyush Sarkar
    Jan 4 at 8:52










  • Ohh, talking about making it more simple. Thank you!
    – Salviati
    Jan 4 at 8:55














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I have a function



$$x(t) = picos(21omega_0t)+0.1cos(39omega_0t)$$



that I want to solve T from the periodicity identity, $x(t)=x(t+T)$.



What I have tried now is basically just solving $x(t)=x(t+T)$, but this gets really complex. So I tried to do the laplace transform of the function in order to maybe find out a way of solving it more simple, the laplace transform is,



$$X(s) = pi frac{s}{s^2+(21omega_0)^2}+0.1frac{s}{s^2+(39omega_0)^2}$$



What struck me here is that I do not really know how to find the periodicity when I am in the frequency plane. I get a feeling it should be a better way of doing it than the latter, but how?










share|cite|improve this question













I have a function



$$x(t) = picos(21omega_0t)+0.1cos(39omega_0t)$$



that I want to solve T from the periodicity identity, $x(t)=x(t+T)$.



What I have tried now is basically just solving $x(t)=x(t+T)$, but this gets really complex. So I tried to do the laplace transform of the function in order to maybe find out a way of solving it more simple, the laplace transform is,



$$X(s) = pi frac{s}{s^2+(21omega_0)^2}+0.1frac{s}{s^2+(39omega_0)^2}$$



What struck me here is that I do not really know how to find the periodicity when I am in the frequency plane. I get a feeling it should be a better way of doing it than the latter, but how?







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    They are just sums of cosines with periods $T_1 = frac{2pi}{21omega_0}$ and $T_2 = frac{2pi}{39omega_0}$ so it is definitely periodic of period at most $T$ such that $T = nT_1 = mT_2$ for some integers $n$ and $m$. Simplifying a bit, we have $39n = 21m implies 3 cdot 13n = 3 cdot 7m implies 13n = 7m$ so the optimal integers are $n = 7, m = 13$. So $T = frac{2pi}{3omega_0}$.
    – Pratyush Sarkar
    Jan 4 at 8:52










  • Ohh, talking about making it more simple. Thank you!
    – Salviati
    Jan 4 at 8:55














  • 1




    They are just sums of cosines with periods $T_1 = frac{2pi}{21omega_0}$ and $T_2 = frac{2pi}{39omega_0}$ so it is definitely periodic of period at most $T$ such that $T = nT_1 = mT_2$ for some integers $n$ and $m$. Simplifying a bit, we have $39n = 21m implies 3 cdot 13n = 3 cdot 7m implies 13n = 7m$ so the optimal integers are $n = 7, m = 13$. So $T = frac{2pi}{3omega_0}$.
    – Pratyush Sarkar
    Jan 4 at 8:52










  • Ohh, talking about making it more simple. Thank you!
    – Salviati
    Jan 4 at 8:55








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They are just sums of cosines with periods $T_1 = frac{2pi}{21omega_0}$ and $T_2 = frac{2pi}{39omega_0}$ so it is definitely periodic of period at most $T$ such that $T = nT_1 = mT_2$ for some integers $n$ and $m$. Simplifying a bit, we have $39n = 21m implies 3 cdot 13n = 3 cdot 7m implies 13n = 7m$ so the optimal integers are $n = 7, m = 13$. So $T = frac{2pi}{3omega_0}$.
– Pratyush Sarkar
Jan 4 at 8:52




They are just sums of cosines with periods $T_1 = frac{2pi}{21omega_0}$ and $T_2 = frac{2pi}{39omega_0}$ so it is definitely periodic of period at most $T$ such that $T = nT_1 = mT_2$ for some integers $n$ and $m$. Simplifying a bit, we have $39n = 21m implies 3 cdot 13n = 3 cdot 7m implies 13n = 7m$ so the optimal integers are $n = 7, m = 13$. So $T = frac{2pi}{3omega_0}$.
– Pratyush Sarkar
Jan 4 at 8:52












Ohh, talking about making it more simple. Thank you!
– Salviati
Jan 4 at 8:55




Ohh, talking about making it more simple. Thank you!
– Salviati
Jan 4 at 8:55










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