mistake in calculations for ImT and KerT
I was asked to calculate ImT and KerT for the following linear transformation. I got to a result for both, but as can be seen from my conclusions, I know there must be a mistake somewhere along the way. Yet I cannot find it… Can anyone help out?
The linear transformation $T:M_{2x2}(R) to R_3[x]$ is defined by:
$$Tbegin{pmatrix}a&b\c&d end{pmatrix}$$$= (a-d)x^2+(b+c)x+5a-5d$
for every $$begin{pmatrix}a&b\c&d end{pmatrix}$$$in M_{2x2}(R)$
I reasoned in the following way:
For KerT:
a=d
b=-c
kerT:
$$begin{pmatrix}a&b\-b&a end{pmatrix}$$=$$abegin{pmatrix}1&0\0&1 end{pmatrix}$$+$$bbegin{pmatrix}0&1\-1&0 end{pmatrix}$$
So KerT = Sp{$$begin{pmatrix}1&0\0&1 end{pmatrix}$$,$$begin{pmatrix}0&1\-1&0 end{pmatrix}$$}
and as the matrices in KerT are clearly linearly independent, this is also a basis with dimension 2.
For ImT:
$(a-d)x^2+(b+c)x+5a-5d$ is a linear combination of the standard basis of R3[x], namely $(x^2,x,1)$. So $ImT = Sp{x^2,x,1}$. This set is per definition linearly independent and therefore $Sp{x^2,x,1}$ is a basis to ImT and its dimension is 3.
The problem is that according to my logic, n = dimKerT + dimImT = 5 and this is contradictory to the fact that n = dimKerT + dimImT = 4, as the dimension of $M_{2x2}(R)=4$
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I was asked to calculate ImT and KerT for the following linear transformation. I got to a result for both, but as can be seen from my conclusions, I know there must be a mistake somewhere along the way. Yet I cannot find it… Can anyone help out?
The linear transformation $T:M_{2x2}(R) to R_3[x]$ is defined by:
$$Tbegin{pmatrix}a&b\c&d end{pmatrix}$$$= (a-d)x^2+(b+c)x+5a-5d$
for every $$begin{pmatrix}a&b\c&d end{pmatrix}$$$in M_{2x2}(R)$
I reasoned in the following way:
For KerT:
a=d
b=-c
kerT:
$$begin{pmatrix}a&b\-b&a end{pmatrix}$$=$$abegin{pmatrix}1&0\0&1 end{pmatrix}$$+$$bbegin{pmatrix}0&1\-1&0 end{pmatrix}$$
So KerT = Sp{$$begin{pmatrix}1&0\0&1 end{pmatrix}$$,$$begin{pmatrix}0&1\-1&0 end{pmatrix}$$}
and as the matrices in KerT are clearly linearly independent, this is also a basis with dimension 2.
For ImT:
$(a-d)x^2+(b+c)x+5a-5d$ is a linear combination of the standard basis of R3[x], namely $(x^2,x,1)$. So $ImT = Sp{x^2,x,1}$. This set is per definition linearly independent and therefore $Sp{x^2,x,1}$ is a basis to ImT and its dimension is 3.
The problem is that according to my logic, n = dimKerT + dimImT = 5 and this is contradictory to the fact that n = dimKerT + dimImT = 4, as the dimension of $M_{2x2}(R)=4$
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I was asked to calculate ImT and KerT for the following linear transformation. I got to a result for both, but as can be seen from my conclusions, I know there must be a mistake somewhere along the way. Yet I cannot find it… Can anyone help out?
The linear transformation $T:M_{2x2}(R) to R_3[x]$ is defined by:
$$Tbegin{pmatrix}a&b\c&d end{pmatrix}$$$= (a-d)x^2+(b+c)x+5a-5d$
for every $$begin{pmatrix}a&b\c&d end{pmatrix}$$$in M_{2x2}(R)$
I reasoned in the following way:
For KerT:
a=d
b=-c
kerT:
$$begin{pmatrix}a&b\-b&a end{pmatrix}$$=$$abegin{pmatrix}1&0\0&1 end{pmatrix}$$+$$bbegin{pmatrix}0&1\-1&0 end{pmatrix}$$
So KerT = Sp{$$begin{pmatrix}1&0\0&1 end{pmatrix}$$,$$begin{pmatrix}0&1\-1&0 end{pmatrix}$$}
and as the matrices in KerT are clearly linearly independent, this is also a basis with dimension 2.
For ImT:
$(a-d)x^2+(b+c)x+5a-5d$ is a linear combination of the standard basis of R3[x], namely $(x^2,x,1)$. So $ImT = Sp{x^2,x,1}$. This set is per definition linearly independent and therefore $Sp{x^2,x,1}$ is a basis to ImT and its dimension is 3.
The problem is that according to my logic, n = dimKerT + dimImT = 5 and this is contradictory to the fact that n = dimKerT + dimImT = 4, as the dimension of $M_{2x2}(R)=4$
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I was asked to calculate ImT and KerT for the following linear transformation. I got to a result for both, but as can be seen from my conclusions, I know there must be a mistake somewhere along the way. Yet I cannot find it… Can anyone help out?
The linear transformation $T:M_{2x2}(R) to R_3[x]$ is defined by:
$$Tbegin{pmatrix}a&b\c&d end{pmatrix}$$$= (a-d)x^2+(b+c)x+5a-5d$
for every $$begin{pmatrix}a&b\c&d end{pmatrix}$$$in M_{2x2}(R)$
I reasoned in the following way:
For KerT:
a=d
b=-c
kerT:
$$begin{pmatrix}a&b\-b&a end{pmatrix}$$=$$abegin{pmatrix}1&0\0&1 end{pmatrix}$$+$$bbegin{pmatrix}0&1\-1&0 end{pmatrix}$$
So KerT = Sp{$$begin{pmatrix}1&0\0&1 end{pmatrix}$$,$$begin{pmatrix}0&1\-1&0 end{pmatrix}$$}
and as the matrices in KerT are clearly linearly independent, this is also a basis with dimension 2.
For ImT:
$(a-d)x^2+(b+c)x+5a-5d$ is a linear combination of the standard basis of R3[x], namely $(x^2,x,1)$. So $ImT = Sp{x^2,x,1}$. This set is per definition linearly independent and therefore $Sp{x^2,x,1}$ is a basis to ImT and its dimension is 3.
The problem is that according to my logic, n = dimKerT + dimImT = 5 and this is contradictory to the fact that n = dimKerT + dimImT = 4, as the dimension of $M_{2x2}(R)=4$
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For ImT:
$(a-d)x^2+(b+c)x+5a-5d$ is a linear combination of the standard basis of R3[x], namely $(x^2,x,1)$. So $ImT = Sp{x^2,x,1}$. This set is per definition linearly independent and therefore $Sp{x^2,x,1}$ is a basis to ImT and its dimension is 3.
It's not an arbitrary linear combination of those standard basis vectors, as the coefficients aren't independent. You could rewrite:
$$(a-d)x^2+(b+c)x+5a-5d = (a-d)(x^2+5)+(b+c)x$$
so it can also be written as a linear combination of (only) $x^2+5$ and $x$, so...
Or for a more general approach, rewrite as (split in all the coefficients):
$$(a-d)x^2+(b+c)x+5a-5d = a(color{blue}{x^2+5})+bcolor{red}{x}+ccolor{purple}{x}+d(color{green}{-x^2-5})$$
and reduce the spanning set $left{color{blue}{x^2+5},color{red}{x},color{purple}{x},color{green}{-x^2-5}right}$ to a basis by eliminating the linearly dependent elements.
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Thank you! So my calculations for KerT were correct?
– dalta
yesterday
1
Yes, although you want to write a comma (instead of a $+$) between the two matrices that span the kernel (the basis has two elements, not the sum of two matrices); in the spanning set.
– StackTD
yesterday
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$$text{Im}(T)netext{Sp}{1,x,x^2}$$
This is because $TBig(begin{bmatrix}a&b\c&d end{bmatrix}Big)=(a-d)(x^2+5)+(b+c)x=k_1(x^2+5)+k_2x$, which means $$text{Im}(T)=text{Sp}{x,x^2+5}$$ which is also a basis with dimension $2$.
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For ImT:
$(a-d)x^2+(b+c)x+5a-5d$ is a linear combination of the standard basis of R3[x], namely $(x^2,x,1)$. So $ImT = Sp{x^2,x,1}$. This set is per definition linearly independent and therefore $Sp{x^2,x,1}$ is a basis to ImT and its dimension is 3.
It's not an arbitrary linear combination of those standard basis vectors, as the coefficients aren't independent. You could rewrite:
$$(a-d)x^2+(b+c)x+5a-5d = (a-d)(x^2+5)+(b+c)x$$
so it can also be written as a linear combination of (only) $x^2+5$ and $x$, so...
Or for a more general approach, rewrite as (split in all the coefficients):
$$(a-d)x^2+(b+c)x+5a-5d = a(color{blue}{x^2+5})+bcolor{red}{x}+ccolor{purple}{x}+d(color{green}{-x^2-5})$$
and reduce the spanning set $left{color{blue}{x^2+5},color{red}{x},color{purple}{x},color{green}{-x^2-5}right}$ to a basis by eliminating the linearly dependent elements.
1
Thank you! So my calculations for KerT were correct?
– dalta
yesterday
1
Yes, although you want to write a comma (instead of a $+$) between the two matrices that span the kernel (the basis has two elements, not the sum of two matrices); in the spanning set.
– StackTD
yesterday
add a comment |
For ImT:
$(a-d)x^2+(b+c)x+5a-5d$ is a linear combination of the standard basis of R3[x], namely $(x^2,x,1)$. So $ImT = Sp{x^2,x,1}$. This set is per definition linearly independent and therefore $Sp{x^2,x,1}$ is a basis to ImT and its dimension is 3.
It's not an arbitrary linear combination of those standard basis vectors, as the coefficients aren't independent. You could rewrite:
$$(a-d)x^2+(b+c)x+5a-5d = (a-d)(x^2+5)+(b+c)x$$
so it can also be written as a linear combination of (only) $x^2+5$ and $x$, so...
Or for a more general approach, rewrite as (split in all the coefficients):
$$(a-d)x^2+(b+c)x+5a-5d = a(color{blue}{x^2+5})+bcolor{red}{x}+ccolor{purple}{x}+d(color{green}{-x^2-5})$$
and reduce the spanning set $left{color{blue}{x^2+5},color{red}{x},color{purple}{x},color{green}{-x^2-5}right}$ to a basis by eliminating the linearly dependent elements.
1
Thank you! So my calculations for KerT were correct?
– dalta
yesterday
1
Yes, although you want to write a comma (instead of a $+$) between the two matrices that span the kernel (the basis has two elements, not the sum of two matrices); in the spanning set.
– StackTD
yesterday
add a comment |
For ImT:
$(a-d)x^2+(b+c)x+5a-5d$ is a linear combination of the standard basis of R3[x], namely $(x^2,x,1)$. So $ImT = Sp{x^2,x,1}$. This set is per definition linearly independent and therefore $Sp{x^2,x,1}$ is a basis to ImT and its dimension is 3.
It's not an arbitrary linear combination of those standard basis vectors, as the coefficients aren't independent. You could rewrite:
$$(a-d)x^2+(b+c)x+5a-5d = (a-d)(x^2+5)+(b+c)x$$
so it can also be written as a linear combination of (only) $x^2+5$ and $x$, so...
Or for a more general approach, rewrite as (split in all the coefficients):
$$(a-d)x^2+(b+c)x+5a-5d = a(color{blue}{x^2+5})+bcolor{red}{x}+ccolor{purple}{x}+d(color{green}{-x^2-5})$$
and reduce the spanning set $left{color{blue}{x^2+5},color{red}{x},color{purple}{x},color{green}{-x^2-5}right}$ to a basis by eliminating the linearly dependent elements.
For ImT:
$(a-d)x^2+(b+c)x+5a-5d$ is a linear combination of the standard basis of R3[x], namely $(x^2,x,1)$. So $ImT = Sp{x^2,x,1}$. This set is per definition linearly independent and therefore $Sp{x^2,x,1}$ is a basis to ImT and its dimension is 3.
It's not an arbitrary linear combination of those standard basis vectors, as the coefficients aren't independent. You could rewrite:
$$(a-d)x^2+(b+c)x+5a-5d = (a-d)(x^2+5)+(b+c)x$$
so it can also be written as a linear combination of (only) $x^2+5$ and $x$, so...
Or for a more general approach, rewrite as (split in all the coefficients):
$$(a-d)x^2+(b+c)x+5a-5d = a(color{blue}{x^2+5})+bcolor{red}{x}+ccolor{purple}{x}+d(color{green}{-x^2-5})$$
and reduce the spanning set $left{color{blue}{x^2+5},color{red}{x},color{purple}{x},color{green}{-x^2-5}right}$ to a basis by eliminating the linearly dependent elements.
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Thank you! So my calculations for KerT were correct?
– dalta
yesterday
1
Yes, although you want to write a comma (instead of a $+$) between the two matrices that span the kernel (the basis has two elements, not the sum of two matrices); in the spanning set.
– StackTD
yesterday
add a comment |
1
Thank you! So my calculations for KerT were correct?
– dalta
yesterday
1
Yes, although you want to write a comma (instead of a $+$) between the two matrices that span the kernel (the basis has two elements, not the sum of two matrices); in the spanning set.
– StackTD
yesterday
1
1
Thank you! So my calculations for KerT were correct?
– dalta
yesterday
Thank you! So my calculations for KerT were correct?
– dalta
yesterday
1
1
Yes, although you want to write a comma (instead of a $+$) between the two matrices that span the kernel (the basis has two elements, not the sum of two matrices); in the spanning set.
– StackTD
yesterday
Yes, although you want to write a comma (instead of a $+$) between the two matrices that span the kernel (the basis has two elements, not the sum of two matrices); in the spanning set.
– StackTD
yesterday
add a comment |
$$text{Im}(T)netext{Sp}{1,x,x^2}$$
This is because $TBig(begin{bmatrix}a&b\c&d end{bmatrix}Big)=(a-d)(x^2+5)+(b+c)x=k_1(x^2+5)+k_2x$, which means $$text{Im}(T)=text{Sp}{x,x^2+5}$$ which is also a basis with dimension $2$.
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$$text{Im}(T)netext{Sp}{1,x,x^2}$$
This is because $TBig(begin{bmatrix}a&b\c&d end{bmatrix}Big)=(a-d)(x^2+5)+(b+c)x=k_1(x^2+5)+k_2x$, which means $$text{Im}(T)=text{Sp}{x,x^2+5}$$ which is also a basis with dimension $2$.
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$$text{Im}(T)netext{Sp}{1,x,x^2}$$
This is because $TBig(begin{bmatrix}a&b\c&d end{bmatrix}Big)=(a-d)(x^2+5)+(b+c)x=k_1(x^2+5)+k_2x$, which means $$text{Im}(T)=text{Sp}{x,x^2+5}$$ which is also a basis with dimension $2$.
$$text{Im}(T)netext{Sp}{1,x,x^2}$$
This is because $TBig(begin{bmatrix}a&b\c&d end{bmatrix}Big)=(a-d)(x^2+5)+(b+c)x=k_1(x^2+5)+k_2x$, which means $$text{Im}(T)=text{Sp}{x,x^2+5}$$ which is also a basis with dimension $2$.
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