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Hitler's ideal Aryan / Nordic appearance was: tall, blond, blue eyed, broad shouldered.



Hitler's own appearance was: short, dark haired, brown eyed, slight and slumpy shoulders.



And most of the Nazi leadership came up pretty short on Aryan / Nordic features. Did they ever address this? Did anyone else ever bring it up or point a finger about it?










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    Hitler’s eyes were blue.

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    Don't expect consistency, when it comes to Nazis. There was an exchange between the film-star Zarah Leander and Joseph Goebbels, when Goebbels asked rhetorically whether Zarah was a jewish name, at which Zarah Leander replied with a rhetorical question herself, whether that also applied to the name Joseph.

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    Not to mention blond hair and/or blue eyes are more common in Slavic countries than in Germany, but they considered slavic people as sub-human.

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    Should be mentioned that Hitler was actually not short, he appears of average height among men of his era. He was not athletic either, but at that time physical exercise was not a fad as it is today. His pictures from WW1 tell a story of an average looking German (Austrian) : encyclopedia.ushmm.org/images/large/…

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    Probably the real irony is that the Aryan ideal appears to be the nordic stereotype who were more likely to be the pre-aryan northern hunter gatherer population and one of the older populations of Europe with male haplogroup I1 predominating. The aryans who migrated into Europe were mainly R1b who appear to have brought red hair with them and and settled mostly in western Europe and R1a who settled mostly in eastern Europe.

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Hitler's ideal Aryan / Nordic appearance was: tall, blond, blue eyed, broad shouldered.



Hitler's own appearance was: short, dark haired, brown eyed, slight and slumpy shoulders.



And most of the Nazi leadership came up pretty short on Aryan / Nordic features. Did they ever address this? Did anyone else ever bring it up or point a finger about it?










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    Hitler’s eyes were blue.

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    Don't expect consistency, when it comes to Nazis. There was an exchange between the film-star Zarah Leander and Joseph Goebbels, when Goebbels asked rhetorically whether Zarah was a jewish name, at which Zarah Leander replied with a rhetorical question herself, whether that also applied to the name Joseph.

    – Dohn Joe
    Jan 15 at 9:13








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    Not to mention blond hair and/or blue eyes are more common in Slavic countries than in Germany, but they considered slavic people as sub-human.

    – Bregalad
    Jan 15 at 10:21






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    Should be mentioned that Hitler was actually not short, he appears of average height among men of his era. He was not athletic either, but at that time physical exercise was not a fad as it is today. His pictures from WW1 tell a story of an average looking German (Austrian) : encyclopedia.ushmm.org/images/large/…

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    Jan 15 at 19:10






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    Probably the real irony is that the Aryan ideal appears to be the nordic stereotype who were more likely to be the pre-aryan northern hunter gatherer population and one of the older populations of Europe with male haplogroup I1 predominating. The aryans who migrated into Europe were mainly R1b who appear to have brought red hair with them and and settled mostly in western Europe and R1a who settled mostly in eastern Europe.

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Hitler's ideal Aryan / Nordic appearance was: tall, blond, blue eyed, broad shouldered.



Hitler's own appearance was: short, dark haired, brown eyed, slight and slumpy shoulders.



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Hitler's own appearance was: short, dark haired, brown eyed, slight and slumpy shoulders.



And most of the Nazi leadership came up pretty short on Aryan / Nordic features. Did they ever address this? Did anyone else ever bring it up or point a finger about it?







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  • 20





    Hitler’s eyes were blue.

    – Laurel
    Jan 15 at 8:37






  • 48





    Don't expect consistency, when it comes to Nazis. There was an exchange between the film-star Zarah Leander and Joseph Goebbels, when Goebbels asked rhetorically whether Zarah was a jewish name, at which Zarah Leander replied with a rhetorical question herself, whether that also applied to the name Joseph.

    – Dohn Joe
    Jan 15 at 9:13








  • 24





    Not to mention blond hair and/or blue eyes are more common in Slavic countries than in Germany, but they considered slavic people as sub-human.

    – Bregalad
    Jan 15 at 10:21






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    Should be mentioned that Hitler was actually not short, he appears of average height among men of his era. He was not athletic either, but at that time physical exercise was not a fad as it is today. His pictures from WW1 tell a story of an average looking German (Austrian) : encyclopedia.ushmm.org/images/large/…

    – rs.29
    Jan 15 at 19:10






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    Probably the real irony is that the Aryan ideal appears to be the nordic stereotype who were more likely to be the pre-aryan northern hunter gatherer population and one of the older populations of Europe with male haplogroup I1 predominating. The aryans who migrated into Europe were mainly R1b who appear to have brought red hair with them and and settled mostly in western Europe and R1a who settled mostly in eastern Europe.

    – Daniel
    Jan 16 at 5:49














  • 20





    Hitler’s eyes were blue.

    – Laurel
    Jan 15 at 8:37






  • 48





    Don't expect consistency, when it comes to Nazis. There was an exchange between the film-star Zarah Leander and Joseph Goebbels, when Goebbels asked rhetorically whether Zarah was a jewish name, at which Zarah Leander replied with a rhetorical question herself, whether that also applied to the name Joseph.

    – Dohn Joe
    Jan 15 at 9:13








  • 24





    Not to mention blond hair and/or blue eyes are more common in Slavic countries than in Germany, but they considered slavic people as sub-human.

    – Bregalad
    Jan 15 at 10:21






  • 7





    Should be mentioned that Hitler was actually not short, he appears of average height among men of his era. He was not athletic either, but at that time physical exercise was not a fad as it is today. His pictures from WW1 tell a story of an average looking German (Austrian) : encyclopedia.ushmm.org/images/large/…

    – rs.29
    Jan 15 at 19:10






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    Probably the real irony is that the Aryan ideal appears to be the nordic stereotype who were more likely to be the pre-aryan northern hunter gatherer population and one of the older populations of Europe with male haplogroup I1 predominating. The aryans who migrated into Europe were mainly R1b who appear to have brought red hair with them and and settled mostly in western Europe and R1a who settled mostly in eastern Europe.

    – Daniel
    Jan 16 at 5:49








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Hitler’s eyes were blue.

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Hitler’s eyes were blue.

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Don't expect consistency, when it comes to Nazis. There was an exchange between the film-star Zarah Leander and Joseph Goebbels, when Goebbels asked rhetorically whether Zarah was a jewish name, at which Zarah Leander replied with a rhetorical question herself, whether that also applied to the name Joseph.

– Dohn Joe
Jan 15 at 9:13







Don't expect consistency, when it comes to Nazis. There was an exchange between the film-star Zarah Leander and Joseph Goebbels, when Goebbels asked rhetorically whether Zarah was a jewish name, at which Zarah Leander replied with a rhetorical question herself, whether that also applied to the name Joseph.

– Dohn Joe
Jan 15 at 9:13






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Not to mention blond hair and/or blue eyes are more common in Slavic countries than in Germany, but they considered slavic people as sub-human.

– Bregalad
Jan 15 at 10:21





Not to mention blond hair and/or blue eyes are more common in Slavic countries than in Germany, but they considered slavic people as sub-human.

– Bregalad
Jan 15 at 10:21




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Should be mentioned that Hitler was actually not short, he appears of average height among men of his era. He was not athletic either, but at that time physical exercise was not a fad as it is today. His pictures from WW1 tell a story of an average looking German (Austrian) : encyclopedia.ushmm.org/images/large/…

– rs.29
Jan 15 at 19:10





Should be mentioned that Hitler was actually not short, he appears of average height among men of his era. He was not athletic either, but at that time physical exercise was not a fad as it is today. His pictures from WW1 tell a story of an average looking German (Austrian) : encyclopedia.ushmm.org/images/large/…

– rs.29
Jan 15 at 19:10




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Probably the real irony is that the Aryan ideal appears to be the nordic stereotype who were more likely to be the pre-aryan northern hunter gatherer population and one of the older populations of Europe with male haplogroup I1 predominating. The aryans who migrated into Europe were mainly R1b who appear to have brought red hair with them and and settled mostly in western Europe and R1a who settled mostly in eastern Europe.

– Daniel
Jan 16 at 5:49





Probably the real irony is that the Aryan ideal appears to be the nordic stereotype who were more likely to be the pre-aryan northern hunter gatherer population and one of the older populations of Europe with male haplogroup I1 predominating. The aryans who migrated into Europe were mainly R1b who appear to have brought red hair with them and and settled mostly in western Europe and R1a who settled mostly in eastern Europe.

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For once that was an ideal. And a goal. To be restored. By racial breeding and struggle. And it was readily apparent to really everyone that not every German was blonde.



That said, Hitler himself was not a "perfect example", but he also wasn't the complete opposite of that concept either, as he had blue eyes:




enter image description here




And was also with 175cm quite average in height (Goebbels was only 165 and the average height of German males born around 1890 was 168.6cm):




enter image description hereenter image description here
left: 1935, ltr, Werner von Fritsch, Werner von Blomberg, that man. (via src) / Right: Hochverratsprozeß gegen die Teilnehmer am Münchener Putsch vom 9. Nov. 1923; München 1924




Further more the equation Germans=Aryans is not what was proclaimed to be the case in the first place:




To which race do Europe’s peoples belong?



The peoples of Europe do not belong to a particular race, but are rather a racial mixture. Our German people is comprised primarily of six races.



And what are they?



The Nordic, the Pfalzish (fälische), the Western (westliche) the East Baltic (ostbaltische), the Ostic (ostische), and the Dinarish (dinarische) races.



The German people is, along with the English, Danish, Norwegian, and Swedish, the most racially pure of the European peoples. With regards to the purity of language, the Scandinavian peoples are in first place.



Werner May, Deutscher National-Katechismus 2nd edition (Breslau: Verlag von Heinrich Handel, 1934), pp. 22-26. (Quoted here: The German National Catechism)




And within this 'system' Hitler may be grouped into x% Nordic, y% Dinaric or Ostisch (alpine) and some other colours. That is Southern branch Aryan mainly, not pure, not ideal, but OK (p121). And bein' a Führer should clearly indicate that the Nordic component is, well, "dominant"?



His academic lackeys, like Ernst Günther Gründel (Die Sendung der jungen Generation. Versuch einer umfassenden revolutionären Sinndeutung der Krise, 1932, p 293) or Gerhard Mackenroth (jstor) come to a similar conclusion:




The great drummer, creator and organizer of the movement, Adolf Hitler, could be a Nordic-Eastern-Dinaric mixture (not purely Dinaric, as opponents have claimed)". (Gründel, my translationj)




And of course, if 'needed', that system was flexible enough to dismiss the 'science' altogether and allow the adage being ascribed to Göring: "Who is Aryan/Jew is what I decide!"




Q Did they ever address this?




Sometimes they did.
During his table-talks Hitler mentioned that for example among ancient Germans it was known that already among the Goths they were known to have non-blondes as well.



The man said this:




Wir alle leiden am Siechtum des gemischten, verdorbenen Blutes. Wie können wir uns reinigen und sühnen? … Das ewige Leben, daß der Gral verleiht, gilt nur den wirklich Reinen, Adligen!" (src)

(Translation: We all suffer from the infirmity of mixed, corrupt blood. How can we purify and atone for ourselves? ... The eternal life which the Grail bestows is only for the truly pure, nobles!




The director of the "Institute for Knowledge of the Human Kind" (his own private invention) wrote like a theoretical mathematician:




Den Gedanken, daß Hitler ein Ausländer ist und von der gegnerischen Presse jahrelang als Ausländer beschrieben und in gemeinst verfälschten Bildern gezeigt wurde, möchte ich somit restlos beseitigt haben. Hitler ist blond, hat rosige Haut, ist also rein (arisch-) germanischer Natur, und alle anderen Verbreitungen über sein Aussehen und seine Persönlichkeit hat die schwarze und rote Presse in die Volksseele gesät, was ich hiermit
richtiggestellt haben möchte.




(Translation:

The idea that Hitler was a foreigner and that for years the opposing press had described him as a foreigner and shown him in meanly falsified pictures, I would like to have thus completely eliminated. Hitler is blonde, has rosy skin, is thus pure (Aryan) Germanic in nature, and all other propaganda about his appearance and personality has been sown into the soul of the people by the black and red press, which I would like to have corrected here.




Tobias Ronge: "Das Bild des Herrschers in Malerei und Grafik des Nationalsozialismus: eine Untersuchung zur Ikonografie von Führer- und Funktionärsbildern im Dritten Reich", LIT: Münster, 2010, p 242.




See, that was easy.

Problem solved by scientist.



More general information on the 'exact' definitions (they are all incongruent and convoluted, with competing theories that cannot be reconciled) a nazi centric starting point would be Hans F. K. Günther who wrote Rassenkunde des deutschen Volkes.






Q Did anyone else ever bring it up or point a finger about it?




Others did that offensively.



A well known political whisper joke during the 1930s was




"Wie sieht ein echter Arier aus? –– Blond wie Hitler, groß wie Goebbels und schlank wie Göring und keusch wie Röhm!




What does the ideal Aryan look like? –– Blond like Hitler, tall like Goebbels, slim like Göring and chaste like Röhm.



This German joke was then picked up for propaganda by "others":



enter image description here (src)



enter image description here (src)



Found by @njuffa:




A slightly different version of the joke was used in the American short film "Don't Be A Sucker" from 1943




That his enemies within his own party have started the rumours might not surprise anyone who expects sever infighting in a still tiny political club of disenfranchised haters in 1921. But these allegations of outright Jewish descent for Hitler himself didn't bother the man until his nephew wrote that to him in a letter in 1930. Hans Frank was tasked by him immediately to evaluate that allegation and came up empty handed. But in 1942 Himmler took up that the line, failing likewise, as one of his grandfathers is just unkown. In the meantime the propaganda abroad picked up the existence of a Jewish gravestone in Bucharest with the name of "Adolf Hittler" on it, drawing far ranging conclusions of dubious quality.



While waiting for his trial in Nuremberg Hans Frank then completed his earlier task by constructing the "Frankenberger These" which is now often repeated but on so shaky grounds that it can be dismissed altogether, and this is done routinely by historians now. But interestingly, the revisionist historian Werner Maser claimed in his biography of Hitler 1967 to also dismiss the just mentioned thesis but to have solved the mystery nontheless:




Hitler was not descended from Jews. He was rather the product of a particularly dense inbreeding. (Der Spiegel, 24.07.1967: "Dichte Inzucht", linked above)




If you trust this magazine, at all:




Only once – it was already in the year 1919 – did Adolf Hitler slip out of a remark which shows that he considered valuable what the NS ideology later declared reprehensible: Inbreeding. At that time he explained how "the Jew in general preserved his race and its peculiarity more sharply than many of the peoples among whom he lived" – "by inbreeding thousands of years old, often carried out in the closest circles".




Inbreeding was indeed an idea that he could certainly related to.



Wolfgang Zdral: "Die Hitlers. Die unbekannte Familie des Führers", Campus: Frankfurt, New York, 2005. (Journalist extending the slightly dubious work of Maser.)





Tiny commentary: it seems that quite some care has to be taken in balancing the description of internal discrepancies and logical pitfalls of racial theories versus using this information to just say that "Hitler was no Aryan himself". The latter is a captive of these theories and somewhat resembling an accusation towards nazis that 'they weren't racist enough'.






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    I think the definition of blonde is also more complicated than just yellow hair. Dark blonde is a thing but I'm not sure his hair qualified as that either. At some point I recall seeing scales of hair and eye color at some point.

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    My daughter lives in Germany, and is considered to be blonde; in the US it was just light brown, and blonder in the summer. So blonde, in the European sense, runs a range from flaxen to light brown. It does not mean "bleached blond" or "yellow blond", which are mostly unnatural.

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    @PeterDiehr Both white and yellow blonde is pretty common in children (in the not-Southern parts of Europe). It's seeing it in adults that's somewhat rare - blonde hair tends to turn light brown as you age (is it "pre-programmed" or "environmental" change? Was it as common when people didn't routinely take seaside vacations in the South?).

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    You may want to add that the average height of German males born in 1890 (Hitler was born in 1889) was 168.6cm. As it reads now, we might just take Goebbels to be short. In fact, Hitler was 2.5 inches above average height. sources

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For once that was an ideal. And a goal. To be restored. By racial breeding and struggle. And it was readily apparent to really everyone that not every German was blonde.



That said, Hitler himself was not a "perfect example", but he also wasn't the complete opposite of that concept either, as he had blue eyes:




enter image description here




And was also with 175cm quite average in height (Goebbels was only 165 and the average height of German males born around 1890 was 168.6cm):




enter image description hereenter image description here
left: 1935, ltr, Werner von Fritsch, Werner von Blomberg, that man. (via src) / Right: Hochverratsprozeß gegen die Teilnehmer am Münchener Putsch vom 9. Nov. 1923; München 1924




Further more the equation Germans=Aryans is not what was proclaimed to be the case in the first place:




To which race do Europe’s peoples belong?



The peoples of Europe do not belong to a particular race, but are rather a racial mixture. Our German people is comprised primarily of six races.



And what are they?



The Nordic, the Pfalzish (fälische), the Western (westliche) the East Baltic (ostbaltische), the Ostic (ostische), and the Dinarish (dinarische) races.



The German people is, along with the English, Danish, Norwegian, and Swedish, the most racially pure of the European peoples. With regards to the purity of language, the Scandinavian peoples are in first place.



Werner May, Deutscher National-Katechismus 2nd edition (Breslau: Verlag von Heinrich Handel, 1934), pp. 22-26. (Quoted here: The German National Catechism)




And within this 'system' Hitler may be grouped into x% Nordic, y% Dinaric or Ostisch (alpine) and some other colours. That is Southern branch Aryan mainly, not pure, not ideal, but OK (p121). And bein' a Führer should clearly indicate that the Nordic component is, well, "dominant"?



His academic lackeys, like Ernst Günther Gründel (Die Sendung der jungen Generation. Versuch einer umfassenden revolutionären Sinndeutung der Krise, 1932, p 293) or Gerhard Mackenroth (jstor) come to a similar conclusion:




The great drummer, creator and organizer of the movement, Adolf Hitler, could be a Nordic-Eastern-Dinaric mixture (not purely Dinaric, as opponents have claimed)". (Gründel, my translationj)




And of course, if 'needed', that system was flexible enough to dismiss the 'science' altogether and allow the adage being ascribed to Göring: "Who is Aryan/Jew is what I decide!"




Q Did they ever address this?




Sometimes they did.
During his table-talks Hitler mentioned that for example among ancient Germans it was known that already among the Goths they were known to have non-blondes as well.



The man said this:




Wir alle leiden am Siechtum des gemischten, verdorbenen Blutes. Wie können wir uns reinigen und sühnen? … Das ewige Leben, daß der Gral verleiht, gilt nur den wirklich Reinen, Adligen!" (src)

(Translation: We all suffer from the infirmity of mixed, corrupt blood. How can we purify and atone for ourselves? ... The eternal life which the Grail bestows is only for the truly pure, nobles!




The director of the "Institute for Knowledge of the Human Kind" (his own private invention) wrote like a theoretical mathematician:




Den Gedanken, daß Hitler ein Ausländer ist und von der gegnerischen Presse jahrelang als Ausländer beschrieben und in gemeinst verfälschten Bildern gezeigt wurde, möchte ich somit restlos beseitigt haben. Hitler ist blond, hat rosige Haut, ist also rein (arisch-) germanischer Natur, und alle anderen Verbreitungen über sein Aussehen und seine Persönlichkeit hat die schwarze und rote Presse in die Volksseele gesät, was ich hiermit
richtiggestellt haben möchte.




(Translation:

The idea that Hitler was a foreigner and that for years the opposing press had described him as a foreigner and shown him in meanly falsified pictures, I would like to have thus completely eliminated. Hitler is blonde, has rosy skin, is thus pure (Aryan) Germanic in nature, and all other propaganda about his appearance and personality has been sown into the soul of the people by the black and red press, which I would like to have corrected here.




Tobias Ronge: "Das Bild des Herrschers in Malerei und Grafik des Nationalsozialismus: eine Untersuchung zur Ikonografie von Führer- und Funktionärsbildern im Dritten Reich", LIT: Münster, 2010, p 242.




See, that was easy.

Problem solved by scientist.



More general information on the 'exact' definitions (they are all incongruent and convoluted, with competing theories that cannot be reconciled) a nazi centric starting point would be Hans F. K. Günther who wrote Rassenkunde des deutschen Volkes.






Q Did anyone else ever bring it up or point a finger about it?




Others did that offensively.



A well known political whisper joke during the 1930s was




"Wie sieht ein echter Arier aus? –– Blond wie Hitler, groß wie Goebbels und schlank wie Göring und keusch wie Röhm!




What does the ideal Aryan look like? –– Blond like Hitler, tall like Goebbels, slim like Göring and chaste like Röhm.



This German joke was then picked up for propaganda by "others":



enter image description here (src)



enter image description here (src)



Found by @njuffa:




A slightly different version of the joke was used in the American short film "Don't Be A Sucker" from 1943




That his enemies within his own party have started the rumours might not surprise anyone who expects sever infighting in a still tiny political club of disenfranchised haters in 1921. But these allegations of outright Jewish descent for Hitler himself didn't bother the man until his nephew wrote that to him in a letter in 1930. Hans Frank was tasked by him immediately to evaluate that allegation and came up empty handed. But in 1942 Himmler took up that the line, failing likewise, as one of his grandfathers is just unkown. In the meantime the propaganda abroad picked up the existence of a Jewish gravestone in Bucharest with the name of "Adolf Hittler" on it, drawing far ranging conclusions of dubious quality.



While waiting for his trial in Nuremberg Hans Frank then completed his earlier task by constructing the "Frankenberger These" which is now often repeated but on so shaky grounds that it can be dismissed altogether, and this is done routinely by historians now. But interestingly, the revisionist historian Werner Maser claimed in his biography of Hitler 1967 to also dismiss the just mentioned thesis but to have solved the mystery nontheless:




Hitler was not descended from Jews. He was rather the product of a particularly dense inbreeding. (Der Spiegel, 24.07.1967: "Dichte Inzucht", linked above)




If you trust this magazine, at all:




Only once – it was already in the year 1919 – did Adolf Hitler slip out of a remark which shows that he considered valuable what the NS ideology later declared reprehensible: Inbreeding. At that time he explained how "the Jew in general preserved his race and its peculiarity more sharply than many of the peoples among whom he lived" – "by inbreeding thousands of years old, often carried out in the closest circles".




Inbreeding was indeed an idea that he could certainly related to.



Wolfgang Zdral: "Die Hitlers. Die unbekannte Familie des Führers", Campus: Frankfurt, New York, 2005. (Journalist extending the slightly dubious work of Maser.)





Tiny commentary: it seems that quite some care has to be taken in balancing the description of internal discrepancies and logical pitfalls of racial theories versus using this information to just say that "Hitler was no Aryan himself". The latter is a captive of these theories and somewhat resembling an accusation towards nazis that 'they weren't racist enough'.






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    +1 for the joke part. I was thinking about that too when reading the question.

    – ed.hank
    Jan 15 at 14:58






  • 2





    I think the definition of blonde is also more complicated than just yellow hair. Dark blonde is a thing but I'm not sure his hair qualified as that either. At some point I recall seeing scales of hair and eye color at some point.

    – JimmyJames
    Jan 15 at 17:02






  • 17





    My daughter lives in Germany, and is considered to be blonde; in the US it was just light brown, and blonder in the summer. So blonde, in the European sense, runs a range from flaxen to light brown. It does not mean "bleached blond" or "yellow blond", which are mostly unnatural.

    – Peter Diehr
    Jan 15 at 19:59






  • 2





    @PeterDiehr Both white and yellow blonde is pretty common in children (in the not-Southern parts of Europe). It's seeing it in adults that's somewhat rare - blonde hair tends to turn light brown as you age (is it "pre-programmed" or "environmental" change? Was it as common when people didn't routinely take seaside vacations in the South?).

    – Luaan
    Jan 16 at 6:44






  • 3





    You may want to add that the average height of German males born in 1890 (Hitler was born in 1889) was 168.6cm. As it reads now, we might just take Goebbels to be short. In fact, Hitler was 2.5 inches above average height. sources

    – Nathan Cooper
    yesterday
















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For once that was an ideal. And a goal. To be restored. By racial breeding and struggle. And it was readily apparent to really everyone that not every German was blonde.



That said, Hitler himself was not a "perfect example", but he also wasn't the complete opposite of that concept either, as he had blue eyes:




enter image description here




And was also with 175cm quite average in height (Goebbels was only 165 and the average height of German males born around 1890 was 168.6cm):




enter image description hereenter image description here
left: 1935, ltr, Werner von Fritsch, Werner von Blomberg, that man. (via src) / Right: Hochverratsprozeß gegen die Teilnehmer am Münchener Putsch vom 9. Nov. 1923; München 1924




Further more the equation Germans=Aryans is not what was proclaimed to be the case in the first place:




To which race do Europe’s peoples belong?



The peoples of Europe do not belong to a particular race, but are rather a racial mixture. Our German people is comprised primarily of six races.



And what are they?



The Nordic, the Pfalzish (fälische), the Western (westliche) the East Baltic (ostbaltische), the Ostic (ostische), and the Dinarish (dinarische) races.



The German people is, along with the English, Danish, Norwegian, and Swedish, the most racially pure of the European peoples. With regards to the purity of language, the Scandinavian peoples are in first place.



Werner May, Deutscher National-Katechismus 2nd edition (Breslau: Verlag von Heinrich Handel, 1934), pp. 22-26. (Quoted here: The German National Catechism)




And within this 'system' Hitler may be grouped into x% Nordic, y% Dinaric or Ostisch (alpine) and some other colours. That is Southern branch Aryan mainly, not pure, not ideal, but OK (p121). And bein' a Führer should clearly indicate that the Nordic component is, well, "dominant"?



His academic lackeys, like Ernst Günther Gründel (Die Sendung der jungen Generation. Versuch einer umfassenden revolutionären Sinndeutung der Krise, 1932, p 293) or Gerhard Mackenroth (jstor) come to a similar conclusion:




The great drummer, creator and organizer of the movement, Adolf Hitler, could be a Nordic-Eastern-Dinaric mixture (not purely Dinaric, as opponents have claimed)". (Gründel, my translationj)




And of course, if 'needed', that system was flexible enough to dismiss the 'science' altogether and allow the adage being ascribed to Göring: "Who is Aryan/Jew is what I decide!"




Q Did they ever address this?




Sometimes they did.
During his table-talks Hitler mentioned that for example among ancient Germans it was known that already among the Goths they were known to have non-blondes as well.



The man said this:




Wir alle leiden am Siechtum des gemischten, verdorbenen Blutes. Wie können wir uns reinigen und sühnen? … Das ewige Leben, daß der Gral verleiht, gilt nur den wirklich Reinen, Adligen!" (src)

(Translation: We all suffer from the infirmity of mixed, corrupt blood. How can we purify and atone for ourselves? ... The eternal life which the Grail bestows is only for the truly pure, nobles!




The director of the "Institute for Knowledge of the Human Kind" (his own private invention) wrote like a theoretical mathematician:




Den Gedanken, daß Hitler ein Ausländer ist und von der gegnerischen Presse jahrelang als Ausländer beschrieben und in gemeinst verfälschten Bildern gezeigt wurde, möchte ich somit restlos beseitigt haben. Hitler ist blond, hat rosige Haut, ist also rein (arisch-) germanischer Natur, und alle anderen Verbreitungen über sein Aussehen und seine Persönlichkeit hat die schwarze und rote Presse in die Volksseele gesät, was ich hiermit
richtiggestellt haben möchte.




(Translation:

The idea that Hitler was a foreigner and that for years the opposing press had described him as a foreigner and shown him in meanly falsified pictures, I would like to have thus completely eliminated. Hitler is blonde, has rosy skin, is thus pure (Aryan) Germanic in nature, and all other propaganda about his appearance and personality has been sown into the soul of the people by the black and red press, which I would like to have corrected here.




Tobias Ronge: "Das Bild des Herrschers in Malerei und Grafik des Nationalsozialismus: eine Untersuchung zur Ikonografie von Führer- und Funktionärsbildern im Dritten Reich", LIT: Münster, 2010, p 242.




See, that was easy.

Problem solved by scientist.



More general information on the 'exact' definitions (they are all incongruent and convoluted, with competing theories that cannot be reconciled) a nazi centric starting point would be Hans F. K. Günther who wrote Rassenkunde des deutschen Volkes.






Q Did anyone else ever bring it up or point a finger about it?




Others did that offensively.



A well known political whisper joke during the 1930s was




"Wie sieht ein echter Arier aus? –– Blond wie Hitler, groß wie Goebbels und schlank wie Göring und keusch wie Röhm!




What does the ideal Aryan look like? –– Blond like Hitler, tall like Goebbels, slim like Göring and chaste like Röhm.



This German joke was then picked up for propaganda by "others":



enter image description here (src)



enter image description here (src)



Found by @njuffa:




A slightly different version of the joke was used in the American short film "Don't Be A Sucker" from 1943




That his enemies within his own party have started the rumours might not surprise anyone who expects sever infighting in a still tiny political club of disenfranchised haters in 1921. But these allegations of outright Jewish descent for Hitler himself didn't bother the man until his nephew wrote that to him in a letter in 1930. Hans Frank was tasked by him immediately to evaluate that allegation and came up empty handed. But in 1942 Himmler took up that the line, failing likewise, as one of his grandfathers is just unkown. In the meantime the propaganda abroad picked up the existence of a Jewish gravestone in Bucharest with the name of "Adolf Hittler" on it, drawing far ranging conclusions of dubious quality.



While waiting for his trial in Nuremberg Hans Frank then completed his earlier task by constructing the "Frankenberger These" which is now often repeated but on so shaky grounds that it can be dismissed altogether, and this is done routinely by historians now. But interestingly, the revisionist historian Werner Maser claimed in his biography of Hitler 1967 to also dismiss the just mentioned thesis but to have solved the mystery nontheless:




Hitler was not descended from Jews. He was rather the product of a particularly dense inbreeding. (Der Spiegel, 24.07.1967: "Dichte Inzucht", linked above)




If you trust this magazine, at all:




Only once – it was already in the year 1919 – did Adolf Hitler slip out of a remark which shows that he considered valuable what the NS ideology later declared reprehensible: Inbreeding. At that time he explained how "the Jew in general preserved his race and its peculiarity more sharply than many of the peoples among whom he lived" – "by inbreeding thousands of years old, often carried out in the closest circles".




Inbreeding was indeed an idea that he could certainly related to.



Wolfgang Zdral: "Die Hitlers. Die unbekannte Familie des Führers", Campus: Frankfurt, New York, 2005. (Journalist extending the slightly dubious work of Maser.)





Tiny commentary: it seems that quite some care has to be taken in balancing the description of internal discrepancies and logical pitfalls of racial theories versus using this information to just say that "Hitler was no Aryan himself". The latter is a captive of these theories and somewhat resembling an accusation towards nazis that 'they weren't racist enough'.






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  • 25





    +1 for the joke part. I was thinking about that too when reading the question.

    – ed.hank
    Jan 15 at 14:58






  • 2





    I think the definition of blonde is also more complicated than just yellow hair. Dark blonde is a thing but I'm not sure his hair qualified as that either. At some point I recall seeing scales of hair and eye color at some point.

    – JimmyJames
    Jan 15 at 17:02






  • 17





    My daughter lives in Germany, and is considered to be blonde; in the US it was just light brown, and blonder in the summer. So blonde, in the European sense, runs a range from flaxen to light brown. It does not mean "bleached blond" or "yellow blond", which are mostly unnatural.

    – Peter Diehr
    Jan 15 at 19:59






  • 2





    @PeterDiehr Both white and yellow blonde is pretty common in children (in the not-Southern parts of Europe). It's seeing it in adults that's somewhat rare - blonde hair tends to turn light brown as you age (is it "pre-programmed" or "environmental" change? Was it as common when people didn't routinely take seaside vacations in the South?).

    – Luaan
    Jan 16 at 6:44






  • 3





    You may want to add that the average height of German males born in 1890 (Hitler was born in 1889) was 168.6cm. As it reads now, we might just take Goebbels to be short. In fact, Hitler was 2.5 inches above average height. sources

    – Nathan Cooper
    yesterday














96












96








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For once that was an ideal. And a goal. To be restored. By racial breeding and struggle. And it was readily apparent to really everyone that not every German was blonde.



That said, Hitler himself was not a "perfect example", but he also wasn't the complete opposite of that concept either, as he had blue eyes:




enter image description here




And was also with 175cm quite average in height (Goebbels was only 165 and the average height of German males born around 1890 was 168.6cm):




enter image description hereenter image description here
left: 1935, ltr, Werner von Fritsch, Werner von Blomberg, that man. (via src) / Right: Hochverratsprozeß gegen die Teilnehmer am Münchener Putsch vom 9. Nov. 1923; München 1924




Further more the equation Germans=Aryans is not what was proclaimed to be the case in the first place:




To which race do Europe’s peoples belong?



The peoples of Europe do not belong to a particular race, but are rather a racial mixture. Our German people is comprised primarily of six races.



And what are they?



The Nordic, the Pfalzish (fälische), the Western (westliche) the East Baltic (ostbaltische), the Ostic (ostische), and the Dinarish (dinarische) races.



The German people is, along with the English, Danish, Norwegian, and Swedish, the most racially pure of the European peoples. With regards to the purity of language, the Scandinavian peoples are in first place.



Werner May, Deutscher National-Katechismus 2nd edition (Breslau: Verlag von Heinrich Handel, 1934), pp. 22-26. (Quoted here: The German National Catechism)




And within this 'system' Hitler may be grouped into x% Nordic, y% Dinaric or Ostisch (alpine) and some other colours. That is Southern branch Aryan mainly, not pure, not ideal, but OK (p121). And bein' a Führer should clearly indicate that the Nordic component is, well, "dominant"?



His academic lackeys, like Ernst Günther Gründel (Die Sendung der jungen Generation. Versuch einer umfassenden revolutionären Sinndeutung der Krise, 1932, p 293) or Gerhard Mackenroth (jstor) come to a similar conclusion:




The great drummer, creator and organizer of the movement, Adolf Hitler, could be a Nordic-Eastern-Dinaric mixture (not purely Dinaric, as opponents have claimed)". (Gründel, my translationj)




And of course, if 'needed', that system was flexible enough to dismiss the 'science' altogether and allow the adage being ascribed to Göring: "Who is Aryan/Jew is what I decide!"




Q Did they ever address this?




Sometimes they did.
During his table-talks Hitler mentioned that for example among ancient Germans it was known that already among the Goths they were known to have non-blondes as well.



The man said this:




Wir alle leiden am Siechtum des gemischten, verdorbenen Blutes. Wie können wir uns reinigen und sühnen? … Das ewige Leben, daß der Gral verleiht, gilt nur den wirklich Reinen, Adligen!" (src)

(Translation: We all suffer from the infirmity of mixed, corrupt blood. How can we purify and atone for ourselves? ... The eternal life which the Grail bestows is only for the truly pure, nobles!




The director of the "Institute for Knowledge of the Human Kind" (his own private invention) wrote like a theoretical mathematician:




Den Gedanken, daß Hitler ein Ausländer ist und von der gegnerischen Presse jahrelang als Ausländer beschrieben und in gemeinst verfälschten Bildern gezeigt wurde, möchte ich somit restlos beseitigt haben. Hitler ist blond, hat rosige Haut, ist also rein (arisch-) germanischer Natur, und alle anderen Verbreitungen über sein Aussehen und seine Persönlichkeit hat die schwarze und rote Presse in die Volksseele gesät, was ich hiermit
richtiggestellt haben möchte.




(Translation:

The idea that Hitler was a foreigner and that for years the opposing press had described him as a foreigner and shown him in meanly falsified pictures, I would like to have thus completely eliminated. Hitler is blonde, has rosy skin, is thus pure (Aryan) Germanic in nature, and all other propaganda about his appearance and personality has been sown into the soul of the people by the black and red press, which I would like to have corrected here.




Tobias Ronge: "Das Bild des Herrschers in Malerei und Grafik des Nationalsozialismus: eine Untersuchung zur Ikonografie von Führer- und Funktionärsbildern im Dritten Reich", LIT: Münster, 2010, p 242.




See, that was easy.

Problem solved by scientist.



More general information on the 'exact' definitions (they are all incongruent and convoluted, with competing theories that cannot be reconciled) a nazi centric starting point would be Hans F. K. Günther who wrote Rassenkunde des deutschen Volkes.






Q Did anyone else ever bring it up or point a finger about it?




Others did that offensively.



A well known political whisper joke during the 1930s was




"Wie sieht ein echter Arier aus? –– Blond wie Hitler, groß wie Goebbels und schlank wie Göring und keusch wie Röhm!




What does the ideal Aryan look like? –– Blond like Hitler, tall like Goebbels, slim like Göring and chaste like Röhm.



This German joke was then picked up for propaganda by "others":



enter image description here (src)



enter image description here (src)



Found by @njuffa:




A slightly different version of the joke was used in the American short film "Don't Be A Sucker" from 1943




That his enemies within his own party have started the rumours might not surprise anyone who expects sever infighting in a still tiny political club of disenfranchised haters in 1921. But these allegations of outright Jewish descent for Hitler himself didn't bother the man until his nephew wrote that to him in a letter in 1930. Hans Frank was tasked by him immediately to evaluate that allegation and came up empty handed. But in 1942 Himmler took up that the line, failing likewise, as one of his grandfathers is just unkown. In the meantime the propaganda abroad picked up the existence of a Jewish gravestone in Bucharest with the name of "Adolf Hittler" on it, drawing far ranging conclusions of dubious quality.



While waiting for his trial in Nuremberg Hans Frank then completed his earlier task by constructing the "Frankenberger These" which is now often repeated but on so shaky grounds that it can be dismissed altogether, and this is done routinely by historians now. But interestingly, the revisionist historian Werner Maser claimed in his biography of Hitler 1967 to also dismiss the just mentioned thesis but to have solved the mystery nontheless:




Hitler was not descended from Jews. He was rather the product of a particularly dense inbreeding. (Der Spiegel, 24.07.1967: "Dichte Inzucht", linked above)




If you trust this magazine, at all:




Only once – it was already in the year 1919 – did Adolf Hitler slip out of a remark which shows that he considered valuable what the NS ideology later declared reprehensible: Inbreeding. At that time he explained how "the Jew in general preserved his race and its peculiarity more sharply than many of the peoples among whom he lived" – "by inbreeding thousands of years old, often carried out in the closest circles".




Inbreeding was indeed an idea that he could certainly related to.



Wolfgang Zdral: "Die Hitlers. Die unbekannte Familie des Führers", Campus: Frankfurt, New York, 2005. (Journalist extending the slightly dubious work of Maser.)





Tiny commentary: it seems that quite some care has to be taken in balancing the description of internal discrepancies and logical pitfalls of racial theories versus using this information to just say that "Hitler was no Aryan himself". The latter is a captive of these theories and somewhat resembling an accusation towards nazis that 'they weren't racist enough'.






share|improve this answer















For once that was an ideal. And a goal. To be restored. By racial breeding and struggle. And it was readily apparent to really everyone that not every German was blonde.



That said, Hitler himself was not a "perfect example", but he also wasn't the complete opposite of that concept either, as he had blue eyes:




enter image description here




And was also with 175cm quite average in height (Goebbels was only 165 and the average height of German males born around 1890 was 168.6cm):




enter image description hereenter image description here
left: 1935, ltr, Werner von Fritsch, Werner von Blomberg, that man. (via src) / Right: Hochverratsprozeß gegen die Teilnehmer am Münchener Putsch vom 9. Nov. 1923; München 1924




Further more the equation Germans=Aryans is not what was proclaimed to be the case in the first place:




To which race do Europe’s peoples belong?



The peoples of Europe do not belong to a particular race, but are rather a racial mixture. Our German people is comprised primarily of six races.



And what are they?



The Nordic, the Pfalzish (fälische), the Western (westliche) the East Baltic (ostbaltische), the Ostic (ostische), and the Dinarish (dinarische) races.



The German people is, along with the English, Danish, Norwegian, and Swedish, the most racially pure of the European peoples. With regards to the purity of language, the Scandinavian peoples are in first place.



Werner May, Deutscher National-Katechismus 2nd edition (Breslau: Verlag von Heinrich Handel, 1934), pp. 22-26. (Quoted here: The German National Catechism)




And within this 'system' Hitler may be grouped into x% Nordic, y% Dinaric or Ostisch (alpine) and some other colours. That is Southern branch Aryan mainly, not pure, not ideal, but OK (p121). And bein' a Führer should clearly indicate that the Nordic component is, well, "dominant"?



His academic lackeys, like Ernst Günther Gründel (Die Sendung der jungen Generation. Versuch einer umfassenden revolutionären Sinndeutung der Krise, 1932, p 293) or Gerhard Mackenroth (jstor) come to a similar conclusion:




The great drummer, creator and organizer of the movement, Adolf Hitler, could be a Nordic-Eastern-Dinaric mixture (not purely Dinaric, as opponents have claimed)". (Gründel, my translationj)




And of course, if 'needed', that system was flexible enough to dismiss the 'science' altogether and allow the adage being ascribed to Göring: "Who is Aryan/Jew is what I decide!"




Q Did they ever address this?




Sometimes they did.
During his table-talks Hitler mentioned that for example among ancient Germans it was known that already among the Goths they were known to have non-blondes as well.



The man said this:




Wir alle leiden am Siechtum des gemischten, verdorbenen Blutes. Wie können wir uns reinigen und sühnen? … Das ewige Leben, daß der Gral verleiht, gilt nur den wirklich Reinen, Adligen!" (src)

(Translation: We all suffer from the infirmity of mixed, corrupt blood. How can we purify and atone for ourselves? ... The eternal life which the Grail bestows is only for the truly pure, nobles!




The director of the "Institute for Knowledge of the Human Kind" (his own private invention) wrote like a theoretical mathematician:




Den Gedanken, daß Hitler ein Ausländer ist und von der gegnerischen Presse jahrelang als Ausländer beschrieben und in gemeinst verfälschten Bildern gezeigt wurde, möchte ich somit restlos beseitigt haben. Hitler ist blond, hat rosige Haut, ist also rein (arisch-) germanischer Natur, und alle anderen Verbreitungen über sein Aussehen und seine Persönlichkeit hat die schwarze und rote Presse in die Volksseele gesät, was ich hiermit
richtiggestellt haben möchte.




(Translation:

The idea that Hitler was a foreigner and that for years the opposing press had described him as a foreigner and shown him in meanly falsified pictures, I would like to have thus completely eliminated. Hitler is blonde, has rosy skin, is thus pure (Aryan) Germanic in nature, and all other propaganda about his appearance and personality has been sown into the soul of the people by the black and red press, which I would like to have corrected here.




Tobias Ronge: "Das Bild des Herrschers in Malerei und Grafik des Nationalsozialismus: eine Untersuchung zur Ikonografie von Führer- und Funktionärsbildern im Dritten Reich", LIT: Münster, 2010, p 242.




See, that was easy.

Problem solved by scientist.



More general information on the 'exact' definitions (they are all incongruent and convoluted, with competing theories that cannot be reconciled) a nazi centric starting point would be Hans F. K. Günther who wrote Rassenkunde des deutschen Volkes.






Q Did anyone else ever bring it up or point a finger about it?




Others did that offensively.



A well known political whisper joke during the 1930s was




"Wie sieht ein echter Arier aus? –– Blond wie Hitler, groß wie Goebbels und schlank wie Göring und keusch wie Röhm!




What does the ideal Aryan look like? –– Blond like Hitler, tall like Goebbels, slim like Göring and chaste like Röhm.



This German joke was then picked up for propaganda by "others":



enter image description here (src)



enter image description here (src)



Found by @njuffa:




A slightly different version of the joke was used in the American short film "Don't Be A Sucker" from 1943




That his enemies within his own party have started the rumours might not surprise anyone who expects sever infighting in a still tiny political club of disenfranchised haters in 1921. But these allegations of outright Jewish descent for Hitler himself didn't bother the man until his nephew wrote that to him in a letter in 1930. Hans Frank was tasked by him immediately to evaluate that allegation and came up empty handed. But in 1942 Himmler took up that the line, failing likewise, as one of his grandfathers is just unkown. In the meantime the propaganda abroad picked up the existence of a Jewish gravestone in Bucharest with the name of "Adolf Hittler" on it, drawing far ranging conclusions of dubious quality.



While waiting for his trial in Nuremberg Hans Frank then completed his earlier task by constructing the "Frankenberger These" which is now often repeated but on so shaky grounds that it can be dismissed altogether, and this is done routinely by historians now. But interestingly, the revisionist historian Werner Maser claimed in his biography of Hitler 1967 to also dismiss the just mentioned thesis but to have solved the mystery nontheless:




Hitler was not descended from Jews. He was rather the product of a particularly dense inbreeding. (Der Spiegel, 24.07.1967: "Dichte Inzucht", linked above)




If you trust this magazine, at all:




Only once – it was already in the year 1919 – did Adolf Hitler slip out of a remark which shows that he considered valuable what the NS ideology later declared reprehensible: Inbreeding. At that time he explained how "the Jew in general preserved his race and its peculiarity more sharply than many of the peoples among whom he lived" – "by inbreeding thousands of years old, often carried out in the closest circles".




Inbreeding was indeed an idea that he could certainly related to.



Wolfgang Zdral: "Die Hitlers. Die unbekannte Familie des Führers", Campus: Frankfurt, New York, 2005. (Journalist extending the slightly dubious work of Maser.)





Tiny commentary: it seems that quite some care has to be taken in balancing the description of internal discrepancies and logical pitfalls of racial theories versus using this information to just say that "Hitler was no Aryan himself". The latter is a captive of these theories and somewhat resembling an accusation towards nazis that 'they weren't racist enough'.







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  • 25





    +1 for the joke part. I was thinking about that too when reading the question.

    – ed.hank
    Jan 15 at 14:58






  • 2





    I think the definition of blonde is also more complicated than just yellow hair. Dark blonde is a thing but I'm not sure his hair qualified as that either. At some point I recall seeing scales of hair and eye color at some point.

    – JimmyJames
    Jan 15 at 17:02






  • 17





    My daughter lives in Germany, and is considered to be blonde; in the US it was just light brown, and blonder in the summer. So blonde, in the European sense, runs a range from flaxen to light brown. It does not mean "bleached blond" or "yellow blond", which are mostly unnatural.

    – Peter Diehr
    Jan 15 at 19:59






  • 2





    @PeterDiehr Both white and yellow blonde is pretty common in children (in the not-Southern parts of Europe). It's seeing it in adults that's somewhat rare - blonde hair tends to turn light brown as you age (is it "pre-programmed" or "environmental" change? Was it as common when people didn't routinely take seaside vacations in the South?).

    – Luaan
    Jan 16 at 6:44






  • 3





    You may want to add that the average height of German males born in 1890 (Hitler was born in 1889) was 168.6cm. As it reads now, we might just take Goebbels to be short. In fact, Hitler was 2.5 inches above average height. sources

    – Nathan Cooper
    yesterday














  • 25





    +1 for the joke part. I was thinking about that too when reading the question.

    – ed.hank
    Jan 15 at 14:58






  • 2





    I think the definition of blonde is also more complicated than just yellow hair. Dark blonde is a thing but I'm not sure his hair qualified as that either. At some point I recall seeing scales of hair and eye color at some point.

    – JimmyJames
    Jan 15 at 17:02






  • 17





    My daughter lives in Germany, and is considered to be blonde; in the US it was just light brown, and blonder in the summer. So blonde, in the European sense, runs a range from flaxen to light brown. It does not mean "bleached blond" or "yellow blond", which are mostly unnatural.

    – Peter Diehr
    Jan 15 at 19:59






  • 2





    @PeterDiehr Both white and yellow blonde is pretty common in children (in the not-Southern parts of Europe). It's seeing it in adults that's somewhat rare - blonde hair tends to turn light brown as you age (is it "pre-programmed" or "environmental" change? Was it as common when people didn't routinely take seaside vacations in the South?).

    – Luaan
    Jan 16 at 6:44






  • 3





    You may want to add that the average height of German males born in 1890 (Hitler was born in 1889) was 168.6cm. As it reads now, we might just take Goebbels to be short. In fact, Hitler was 2.5 inches above average height. sources

    – Nathan Cooper
    yesterday








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+1 for the joke part. I was thinking about that too when reading the question.

– ed.hank
Jan 15 at 14:58





+1 for the joke part. I was thinking about that too when reading the question.

– ed.hank
Jan 15 at 14:58




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I think the definition of blonde is also more complicated than just yellow hair. Dark blonde is a thing but I'm not sure his hair qualified as that either. At some point I recall seeing scales of hair and eye color at some point.

– JimmyJames
Jan 15 at 17:02





I think the definition of blonde is also more complicated than just yellow hair. Dark blonde is a thing but I'm not sure his hair qualified as that either. At some point I recall seeing scales of hair and eye color at some point.

– JimmyJames
Jan 15 at 17:02




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My daughter lives in Germany, and is considered to be blonde; in the US it was just light brown, and blonder in the summer. So blonde, in the European sense, runs a range from flaxen to light brown. It does not mean "bleached blond" or "yellow blond", which are mostly unnatural.

– Peter Diehr
Jan 15 at 19:59





My daughter lives in Germany, and is considered to be blonde; in the US it was just light brown, and blonder in the summer. So blonde, in the European sense, runs a range from flaxen to light brown. It does not mean "bleached blond" or "yellow blond", which are mostly unnatural.

– Peter Diehr
Jan 15 at 19:59




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@PeterDiehr Both white and yellow blonde is pretty common in children (in the not-Southern parts of Europe). It's seeing it in adults that's somewhat rare - blonde hair tends to turn light brown as you age (is it "pre-programmed" or "environmental" change? Was it as common when people didn't routinely take seaside vacations in the South?).

– Luaan
Jan 16 at 6:44





@PeterDiehr Both white and yellow blonde is pretty common in children (in the not-Southern parts of Europe). It's seeing it in adults that's somewhat rare - blonde hair tends to turn light brown as you age (is it "pre-programmed" or "environmental" change? Was it as common when people didn't routinely take seaside vacations in the South?).

– Luaan
Jan 16 at 6:44




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You may want to add that the average height of German males born in 1890 (Hitler was born in 1889) was 168.6cm. As it reads now, we might just take Goebbels to be short. In fact, Hitler was 2.5 inches above average height. sources

– Nathan Cooper
yesterday





You may want to add that the average height of German males born in 1890 (Hitler was born in 1889) was 168.6cm. As it reads now, we might just take Goebbels to be short. In fact, Hitler was 2.5 inches above average height. sources

– Nathan Cooper
yesterday










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