Decide about convergence of the series for $a>0$ and $qin mathbb R$
My series is: $$sum_{n=1}^{+ infty } frac{q^{n}n^{2}cos( frac{npi}{5} )}{ frac{n^{3}}{1444}+1001n^{2}+1444an }$$
for $q in mathbb{R}$ and $a > 1$.
I did this task for $|q|<1$ and $|q|>1$ using the Cauchy criterion and for $q=-1$ using the Leibnitz criterion. However I cannot do this task for $q=1$. My idea is to use Raabe test but there are big number and it is difficult to use it so I think exist easier way.
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My series is: $$sum_{n=1}^{+ infty } frac{q^{n}n^{2}cos( frac{npi}{5} )}{ frac{n^{3}}{1444}+1001n^{2}+1444an }$$
for $q in mathbb{R}$ and $a > 1$.
I did this task for $|q|<1$ and $|q|>1$ using the Cauchy criterion and for $q=-1$ using the Leibnitz criterion. However I cannot do this task for $q=1$. My idea is to use Raabe test but there are big number and it is difficult to use it so I think exist easier way.
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My series is: $$sum_{n=1}^{+ infty } frac{q^{n}n^{2}cos( frac{npi}{5} )}{ frac{n^{3}}{1444}+1001n^{2}+1444an }$$
for $q in mathbb{R}$ and $a > 1$.
I did this task for $|q|<1$ and $|q|>1$ using the Cauchy criterion and for $q=-1$ using the Leibnitz criterion. However I cannot do this task for $q=1$. My idea is to use Raabe test but there are big number and it is difficult to use it so I think exist easier way.
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My series is: $$sum_{n=1}^{+ infty } frac{q^{n}n^{2}cos( frac{npi}{5} )}{ frac{n^{3}}{1444}+1001n^{2}+1444an }$$
for $q in mathbb{R}$ and $a > 1$.
I did this task for $|q|<1$ and $|q|>1$ using the Cauchy criterion and for $q=-1$ using the Leibnitz criterion. However I cannot do this task for $q=1$. My idea is to use Raabe test but there are big number and it is difficult to use it so I think exist easier way.
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You can prove it converges using the Dirichlet Test. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirichlet%27s_test
When $q=1$ this sum will be less than
$$1444sum_{n=1}^infty frac{cos{(frac{npi}{5})}}{n}$$
$|sum_{n=1}^N cos{(frac{npi}{5})}| le 10$ for every integer $N$, this is easy to see because the sum repeats every $20$, and the sum at $20$ is $0$ (Note I choose $10$ randomly, you could get a way better bound if you wanted). And $frac1n$ is decreasing and goes to 0, so the sum converges.
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There are few unfortunate $a$s, which vanish the denominator.
– user58697
Jan 5 at 5:02
@user58697 The problem states that $a>1$ so the denominator will always be positive.
– Erik Parkinson
Jan 5 at 5:04
@ErikParkinson I checked this sum in Wolfram and I got that SumConvergence is for: "Abs[q] <= 1 && q != 1", so Wolfram think that for q=1, the series is divergent. Are you sure of your answer? Because I do not see an error in your reasoning, and yet Wolfram gives something else
– MP3129
Jan 5 at 10:54
@MP3129 I'm pretty sure, although I could be missing something. Do you know how Wolfram determines convergence? My guess is that it is doing something numerical and ends up guessing incorrectly that it diverges.
– Erik Parkinson
Jan 5 at 11:08
@ErikParkinson Unfortunately Wolfram must be right, because I am writing this series for q=1 and for several different $a$ - for example for 1,2 and really big $a$ to give Wolfram constant values and all the time I get that the series is divergent . Moreover I checked Sum for {n,1,100},{n,1,1000},{n,1,100000} and the sum is constantly growing so this series must be divergent
– MP3129
Jan 5 at 12:08
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You can prove it converges using the Dirichlet Test. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirichlet%27s_test
When $q=1$ this sum will be less than
$$1444sum_{n=1}^infty frac{cos{(frac{npi}{5})}}{n}$$
$|sum_{n=1}^N cos{(frac{npi}{5})}| le 10$ for every integer $N$, this is easy to see because the sum repeats every $20$, and the sum at $20$ is $0$ (Note I choose $10$ randomly, you could get a way better bound if you wanted). And $frac1n$ is decreasing and goes to 0, so the sum converges.
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There are few unfortunate $a$s, which vanish the denominator.
– user58697
Jan 5 at 5:02
@user58697 The problem states that $a>1$ so the denominator will always be positive.
– Erik Parkinson
Jan 5 at 5:04
@ErikParkinson I checked this sum in Wolfram and I got that SumConvergence is for: "Abs[q] <= 1 && q != 1", so Wolfram think that for q=1, the series is divergent. Are you sure of your answer? Because I do not see an error in your reasoning, and yet Wolfram gives something else
– MP3129
Jan 5 at 10:54
@MP3129 I'm pretty sure, although I could be missing something. Do you know how Wolfram determines convergence? My guess is that it is doing something numerical and ends up guessing incorrectly that it diverges.
– Erik Parkinson
Jan 5 at 11:08
@ErikParkinson Unfortunately Wolfram must be right, because I am writing this series for q=1 and for several different $a$ - for example for 1,2 and really big $a$ to give Wolfram constant values and all the time I get that the series is divergent . Moreover I checked Sum for {n,1,100},{n,1,1000},{n,1,100000} and the sum is constantly growing so this series must be divergent
– MP3129
Jan 5 at 12:08
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You can prove it converges using the Dirichlet Test. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirichlet%27s_test
When $q=1$ this sum will be less than
$$1444sum_{n=1}^infty frac{cos{(frac{npi}{5})}}{n}$$
$|sum_{n=1}^N cos{(frac{npi}{5})}| le 10$ for every integer $N$, this is easy to see because the sum repeats every $20$, and the sum at $20$ is $0$ (Note I choose $10$ randomly, you could get a way better bound if you wanted). And $frac1n$ is decreasing and goes to 0, so the sum converges.
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There are few unfortunate $a$s, which vanish the denominator.
– user58697
Jan 5 at 5:02
@user58697 The problem states that $a>1$ so the denominator will always be positive.
– Erik Parkinson
Jan 5 at 5:04
@ErikParkinson I checked this sum in Wolfram and I got that SumConvergence is for: "Abs[q] <= 1 && q != 1", so Wolfram think that for q=1, the series is divergent. Are you sure of your answer? Because I do not see an error in your reasoning, and yet Wolfram gives something else
– MP3129
Jan 5 at 10:54
@MP3129 I'm pretty sure, although I could be missing something. Do you know how Wolfram determines convergence? My guess is that it is doing something numerical and ends up guessing incorrectly that it diverges.
– Erik Parkinson
Jan 5 at 11:08
@ErikParkinson Unfortunately Wolfram must be right, because I am writing this series for q=1 and for several different $a$ - for example for 1,2 and really big $a$ to give Wolfram constant values and all the time I get that the series is divergent . Moreover I checked Sum for {n,1,100},{n,1,1000},{n,1,100000} and the sum is constantly growing so this series must be divergent
– MP3129
Jan 5 at 12:08
|
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You can prove it converges using the Dirichlet Test. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirichlet%27s_test
When $q=1$ this sum will be less than
$$1444sum_{n=1}^infty frac{cos{(frac{npi}{5})}}{n}$$
$|sum_{n=1}^N cos{(frac{npi}{5})}| le 10$ for every integer $N$, this is easy to see because the sum repeats every $20$, and the sum at $20$ is $0$ (Note I choose $10$ randomly, you could get a way better bound if you wanted). And $frac1n$ is decreasing and goes to 0, so the sum converges.
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You can prove it converges using the Dirichlet Test. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirichlet%27s_test
When $q=1$ this sum will be less than
$$1444sum_{n=1}^infty frac{cos{(frac{npi}{5})}}{n}$$
$|sum_{n=1}^N cos{(frac{npi}{5})}| le 10$ for every integer $N$, this is easy to see because the sum repeats every $20$, and the sum at $20$ is $0$ (Note I choose $10$ randomly, you could get a way better bound if you wanted). And $frac1n$ is decreasing and goes to 0, so the sum converges.
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There are few unfortunate $a$s, which vanish the denominator.
– user58697
Jan 5 at 5:02
@user58697 The problem states that $a>1$ so the denominator will always be positive.
– Erik Parkinson
Jan 5 at 5:04
@ErikParkinson I checked this sum in Wolfram and I got that SumConvergence is for: "Abs[q] <= 1 && q != 1", so Wolfram think that for q=1, the series is divergent. Are you sure of your answer? Because I do not see an error in your reasoning, and yet Wolfram gives something else
– MP3129
Jan 5 at 10:54
@MP3129 I'm pretty sure, although I could be missing something. Do you know how Wolfram determines convergence? My guess is that it is doing something numerical and ends up guessing incorrectly that it diverges.
– Erik Parkinson
Jan 5 at 11:08
@ErikParkinson Unfortunately Wolfram must be right, because I am writing this series for q=1 and for several different $a$ - for example for 1,2 and really big $a$ to give Wolfram constant values and all the time I get that the series is divergent . Moreover I checked Sum for {n,1,100},{n,1,1000},{n,1,100000} and the sum is constantly growing so this series must be divergent
– MP3129
Jan 5 at 12:08
|
show 2 more comments
There are few unfortunate $a$s, which vanish the denominator.
– user58697
Jan 5 at 5:02
@user58697 The problem states that $a>1$ so the denominator will always be positive.
– Erik Parkinson
Jan 5 at 5:04
@ErikParkinson I checked this sum in Wolfram and I got that SumConvergence is for: "Abs[q] <= 1 && q != 1", so Wolfram think that for q=1, the series is divergent. Are you sure of your answer? Because I do not see an error in your reasoning, and yet Wolfram gives something else
– MP3129
Jan 5 at 10:54
@MP3129 I'm pretty sure, although I could be missing something. Do you know how Wolfram determines convergence? My guess is that it is doing something numerical and ends up guessing incorrectly that it diverges.
– Erik Parkinson
Jan 5 at 11:08
@ErikParkinson Unfortunately Wolfram must be right, because I am writing this series for q=1 and for several different $a$ - for example for 1,2 and really big $a$ to give Wolfram constant values and all the time I get that the series is divergent . Moreover I checked Sum for {n,1,100},{n,1,1000},{n,1,100000} and the sum is constantly growing so this series must be divergent
– MP3129
Jan 5 at 12:08
There are few unfortunate $a$s, which vanish the denominator.
– user58697
Jan 5 at 5:02
There are few unfortunate $a$s, which vanish the denominator.
– user58697
Jan 5 at 5:02
@user58697 The problem states that $a>1$ so the denominator will always be positive.
– Erik Parkinson
Jan 5 at 5:04
@user58697 The problem states that $a>1$ so the denominator will always be positive.
– Erik Parkinson
Jan 5 at 5:04
@ErikParkinson I checked this sum in Wolfram and I got that SumConvergence is for: "Abs[q] <= 1 && q != 1", so Wolfram think that for q=1, the series is divergent. Are you sure of your answer? Because I do not see an error in your reasoning, and yet Wolfram gives something else
– MP3129
Jan 5 at 10:54
@ErikParkinson I checked this sum in Wolfram and I got that SumConvergence is for: "Abs[q] <= 1 && q != 1", so Wolfram think that for q=1, the series is divergent. Are you sure of your answer? Because I do not see an error in your reasoning, and yet Wolfram gives something else
– MP3129
Jan 5 at 10:54
@MP3129 I'm pretty sure, although I could be missing something. Do you know how Wolfram determines convergence? My guess is that it is doing something numerical and ends up guessing incorrectly that it diverges.
– Erik Parkinson
Jan 5 at 11:08
@MP3129 I'm pretty sure, although I could be missing something. Do you know how Wolfram determines convergence? My guess is that it is doing something numerical and ends up guessing incorrectly that it diverges.
– Erik Parkinson
Jan 5 at 11:08
@ErikParkinson Unfortunately Wolfram must be right, because I am writing this series for q=1 and for several different $a$ - for example for 1,2 and really big $a$ to give Wolfram constant values and all the time I get that the series is divergent . Moreover I checked Sum for {n,1,100},{n,1,1000},{n,1,100000} and the sum is constantly growing so this series must be divergent
– MP3129
Jan 5 at 12:08
@ErikParkinson Unfortunately Wolfram must be right, because I am writing this series for q=1 and for several different $a$ - for example for 1,2 and really big $a$ to give Wolfram constant values and all the time I get that the series is divergent . Moreover I checked Sum for {n,1,100},{n,1,1000},{n,1,100000} and the sum is constantly growing so this series must be divergent
– MP3129
Jan 5 at 12:08
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