Ratio test to find radius of convergence: $sumlimits_{n=0}^infty (n+1)(t-1)^{2n}$
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Use the ratio test on :
$$sumlimits_{n=0}^infty (n+1)(t-1)^{2n}$$
and find the radius of convergence.
I know to start the ratio test, we consider $frac{a_{n+1}}{a_n}$
So I let:
$$a_n=(n+1)(t-1)^{2n}$$
$$a_{n+1}=(n+2)(t-1)^{2n+2}$$
Thus,
$$frac{a_{n+1}}{a_n} = frac{(n+2)(t-1)^{2n+2}}{(n+1)(t-1)^{2n}} = frac{(n+2)(t-1)^{2n}(t-1)^2}{(n+1)(t-1)^{2n}} = frac{(n+2)(t-1)^2}{(n+1)}$$
Then I take the limit:
$$(t-1)^2 lim_{ntoinfty} frac{n+2}{n+1}=(t-1)^2$$
Thus, for this series:
- Convergence if $(t-1)^2<1$
- Divergence if $(t-1)^2>1$
So is the radius of convergence $1$?
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Use the ratio test on :
$$sumlimits_{n=0}^infty (n+1)(t-1)^{2n}$$
and find the radius of convergence.
I know to start the ratio test, we consider $frac{a_{n+1}}{a_n}$
So I let:
$$a_n=(n+1)(t-1)^{2n}$$
$$a_{n+1}=(n+2)(t-1)^{2n+2}$$
Thus,
$$frac{a_{n+1}}{a_n} = frac{(n+2)(t-1)^{2n+2}}{(n+1)(t-1)^{2n}} = frac{(n+2)(t-1)^{2n}(t-1)^2}{(n+1)(t-1)^{2n}} = frac{(n+2)(t-1)^2}{(n+1)}$$
Then I take the limit:
$$(t-1)^2 lim_{ntoinfty} frac{n+2}{n+1}=(t-1)^2$$
Thus, for this series:
- Convergence if $(t-1)^2<1$
- Divergence if $(t-1)^2>1$
So is the radius of convergence $1$?
calculus sequences-and-series proof-verification convergence
edited Jan 7 at 7:31
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asked May 11 '15 at 0:21
ChilanieChilanie
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Yes. But to be complete, not that $(t-1)^2<1$ implies $|t-1| < 1$ and then guarantees convergence $0<t<2.$ Convergence at the endpoints $t=0$ and $t=2$ will not occur for this particular series.
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– matt biesecker
May 11 '15 at 0:29
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$begingroup$
Use the ratio test on :
$$sumlimits_{n=0}^infty (n+1)(t-1)^{2n}$$
and find the radius of convergence.
I know to start the ratio test, we consider $frac{a_{n+1}}{a_n}$
So I let:
$$a_n=(n+1)(t-1)^{2n}$$
$$a_{n+1}=(n+2)(t-1)^{2n+2}$$
Thus,
$$frac{a_{n+1}}{a_n} = frac{(n+2)(t-1)^{2n+2}}{(n+1)(t-1)^{2n}} = frac{(n+2)(t-1)^{2n}(t-1)^2}{(n+1)(t-1)^{2n}} = frac{(n+2)(t-1)^2}{(n+1)}$$
Then I take the limit:
$$(t-1)^2 lim_{ntoinfty} frac{n+2}{n+1}=(t-1)^2$$
Thus, for this series:
- Convergence if $(t-1)^2<1$
- Divergence if $(t-1)^2>1$
So is the radius of convergence $1$?
calculus sequences-and-series proof-verification convergence
edited Jan 7 at 7:31
Eevee Trainer
5,4691936
asked May 11 '15 at 0:21
ChilanieChilanie
174110
$endgroup$
Use the ratio test on :
$$sumlimits_{n=0}^infty (n+1)(t-1)^{2n}$$
and find the radius of convergence.
I know to start the ratio test, we consider $frac{a_{n+1}}{a_n}$
So I let:
$$a_n=(n+1)(t-1)^{2n}$$
$$a_{n+1}=(n+2)(t-1)^{2n+2}$$
Thus,
$$frac{a_{n+1}}{a_n} = frac{(n+2)(t-1)^{2n+2}}{(n+1)(t-1)^{2n}} = frac{(n+2)(t-1)^{2n}(t-1)^2}{(n+1)(t-1)^{2n}} = frac{(n+2)(t-1)^2}{(n+1)}$$
Then I take the limit:
$$(t-1)^2 lim_{ntoinfty} frac{n+2}{n+1}=(t-1)^2$$
Thus, for this series:
- Convergence if $(t-1)^2<1$
- Divergence if $(t-1)^2>1$
So is the radius of convergence $1$?
calculus sequences-and-series proof-verification convergence
calculus sequences-and-series proof-verification convergence
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Yes. But to be complete, not that $(t-1)^2<1$ implies $|t-1| < 1$ and then guarantees convergence $0<t<2.$ Convergence at the endpoints $t=0$ and $t=2$ will not occur for this particular series.
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Yes. But to be complete, not that $(t-1)^2<1$ implies $|t-1| < 1$ and then guarantees convergence $0<t<2.$ Convergence at the endpoints $t=0$ and $t=2$ will not occur for this particular series.
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– matt biesecker
May 11 '15 at 0:29
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Yes. But to be complete, not that $(t-1)^2<1$ implies $|t-1| < 1$ and then guarantees convergence $0<t<2.$ Convergence at the endpoints $t=0$ and $t=2$ will not occur for this particular series.
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– matt biesecker
May 11 '15 at 0:29
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Yes. But to be complete, not that $(t-1)^2<1$ implies $|t-1| < 1$ and then guarantees convergence $0<t<2.$ Convergence at the endpoints $t=0$ and $t=2$ will not occur for this particular series.
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Your solution for the most part is correct, up until determining the radius of convergence. (Your solution is correct, but incomplete, and I suspect correct for the wrong reasons since you didn't explicitly solve for $t$.) We note: for convergence, we want
$$(t-1)^2 < 1$$
Taking the square root of both sides gives the following, depending on whether you take the negative or positive root:
$$t-1 < 1 ;;; text{and} ;;; t-1 > -1$$
An equivalent formulation of this statement is $|t-1|<1$. (You can see why this statement holds easily by solving $x^2 < 1$. From this, solving for $t$:
$$t < 2 ;;; text{and} ;;; t > 0$$
Thus, for all $t$ satisfying $0 < t < 2$, the series converges, and diverges otherwise. The width of this interval is $2$, thus giving a radius of convergence of $1$. If you wanted to go further into the details on the interval of convergence, you could also justify the non-inclusion of $t=0$ and $t=2$ fairly easily by plugging each into the original series, simplifying, and checking for convergence that way as well.
This would be starkly different if, say, we have $(3t-1)^2 < 1$ instead for this series, which would result in a radius of convergence of $1/3$. (I'll leave showing that as an exercise to the reader.) The key point here being to make sure your work is all justified and to see where it comes from. I could easily see a few number of ways you could just pick out $1$ as the radius of convergence from $(t-1)^2 < 1$ and, while having the right radius, you would be wrong if you applied it to similar problems.
In short, correct solution, just perhaps for not the right reasons, it's hard to say, and this thus should be an example of the importance of showing your work.
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There is detail missing here. When applying a function to an inequality, it must first be established that the function is monotonic on the interval. If it isn't, you must break it apart into the different intervals of monotonic behaviour. Within each monotonic sets you then need to identify whether the function is increasing or decreasing as in the case of decreasing the inequality sign is reversed. Here taking the positive square root on the interval, we have a function that is monotonic and increasing and so, it is allowable here.
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Your solution for the most part is correct, up until determining the radius of convergence. (Your solution is correct, but incomplete, and I suspect correct for the wrong reasons since you didn't explicitly solve for $t$.) We note: for convergence, we want
$$(t-1)^2 < 1$$
Taking the square root of both sides gives the following, depending on whether you take the negative or positive root:
$$t-1 < 1 ;;; text{and} ;;; t-1 > -1$$
An equivalent formulation of this statement is $|t-1|<1$. (You can see why this statement holds easily by solving $x^2 < 1$. From this, solving for $t$:
$$t < 2 ;;; text{and} ;;; t > 0$$
Thus, for all $t$ satisfying $0 < t < 2$, the series converges, and diverges otherwise. The width of this interval is $2$, thus giving a radius of convergence of $1$. If you wanted to go further into the details on the interval of convergence, you could also justify the non-inclusion of $t=0$ and $t=2$ fairly easily by plugging each into the original series, simplifying, and checking for convergence that way as well.
This would be starkly different if, say, we have $(3t-1)^2 < 1$ instead for this series, which would result in a radius of convergence of $1/3$. (I'll leave showing that as an exercise to the reader.) The key point here being to make sure your work is all justified and to see where it comes from. I could easily see a few number of ways you could just pick out $1$ as the radius of convergence from $(t-1)^2 < 1$ and, while having the right radius, you would be wrong if you applied it to similar problems.
In short, correct solution, just perhaps for not the right reasons, it's hard to say, and this thus should be an example of the importance of showing your work.
answered Jan 7 at 7:29
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There is detail missing here. When applying a function to an inequality, it must first be established that the function is monotonic on the interval. If it isn't, you must break it apart into the different intervals of monotonic behaviour. Within each monotonic sets you then need to identify whether the function is increasing or decreasing as in the case of decreasing the inequality sign is reversed. Here taking the positive square root on the interval, we have a function that is monotonic and increasing and so, it is allowable here.
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– DavidG
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Your solution for the most part is correct, up until determining the radius of convergence. (Your solution is correct, but incomplete, and I suspect correct for the wrong reasons since you didn't explicitly solve for $t$.) We note: for convergence, we want
$$(t-1)^2 < 1$$
Taking the square root of both sides gives the following, depending on whether you take the negative or positive root:
$$t-1 < 1 ;;; text{and} ;;; t-1 > -1$$
An equivalent formulation of this statement is $|t-1|<1$. (You can see why this statement holds easily by solving $x^2 < 1$. From this, solving for $t$:
$$t < 2 ;;; text{and} ;;; t > 0$$
Thus, for all $t$ satisfying $0 < t < 2$, the series converges, and diverges otherwise. The width of this interval is $2$, thus giving a radius of convergence of $1$. If you wanted to go further into the details on the interval of convergence, you could also justify the non-inclusion of $t=0$ and $t=2$ fairly easily by plugging each into the original series, simplifying, and checking for convergence that way as well.
This would be starkly different if, say, we have $(3t-1)^2 < 1$ instead for this series, which would result in a radius of convergence of $1/3$. (I'll leave showing that as an exercise to the reader.) The key point here being to make sure your work is all justified and to see where it comes from. I could easily see a few number of ways you could just pick out $1$ as the radius of convergence from $(t-1)^2 < 1$ and, while having the right radius, you would be wrong if you applied it to similar problems.
In short, correct solution, just perhaps for not the right reasons, it's hard to say, and this thus should be an example of the importance of showing your work.
answered Jan 7 at 7:29
Eevee TrainerEevee Trainer
5,4691936
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There is detail missing here. When applying a function to an inequality, it must first be established that the function is monotonic on the interval. If it isn't, you must break it apart into the different intervals of monotonic behaviour. Within each monotonic sets you then need to identify whether the function is increasing or decreasing as in the case of decreasing the inequality sign is reversed. Here taking the positive square root on the interval, we have a function that is monotonic and increasing and so, it is allowable here.
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– DavidG
Jan 8 at 4:46
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Your solution for the most part is correct, up until determining the radius of convergence. (Your solution is correct, but incomplete, and I suspect correct for the wrong reasons since you didn't explicitly solve for $t$.) We note: for convergence, we want
$$(t-1)^2 < 1$$
Taking the square root of both sides gives the following, depending on whether you take the negative or positive root:
$$t-1 < 1 ;;; text{and} ;;; t-1 > -1$$
An equivalent formulation of this statement is $|t-1|<1$. (You can see why this statement holds easily by solving $x^2 < 1$. From this, solving for $t$:
$$t < 2 ;;; text{and} ;;; t > 0$$
Thus, for all $t$ satisfying $0 < t < 2$, the series converges, and diverges otherwise. The width of this interval is $2$, thus giving a radius of convergence of $1$. If you wanted to go further into the details on the interval of convergence, you could also justify the non-inclusion of $t=0$ and $t=2$ fairly easily by plugging each into the original series, simplifying, and checking for convergence that way as well.
This would be starkly different if, say, we have $(3t-1)^2 < 1$ instead for this series, which would result in a radius of convergence of $1/3$. (I'll leave showing that as an exercise to the reader.) The key point here being to make sure your work is all justified and to see where it comes from. I could easily see a few number of ways you could just pick out $1$ as the radius of convergence from $(t-1)^2 < 1$ and, while having the right radius, you would be wrong if you applied it to similar problems.
In short, correct solution, just perhaps for not the right reasons, it's hard to say, and this thus should be an example of the importance of showing your work.
answered Jan 7 at 7:29
Eevee TrainerEevee Trainer
5,4691936
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Your solution for the most part is correct, up until determining the radius of convergence. (Your solution is correct, but incomplete, and I suspect correct for the wrong reasons since you didn't explicitly solve for $t$.) We note: for convergence, we want
$$(t-1)^2 < 1$$
Taking the square root of both sides gives the following, depending on whether you take the negative or positive root:
$$t-1 < 1 ;;; text{and} ;;; t-1 > -1$$
An equivalent formulation of this statement is $|t-1|<1$. (You can see why this statement holds easily by solving $x^2 < 1$. From this, solving for $t$:
$$t < 2 ;;; text{and} ;;; t > 0$$
Thus, for all $t$ satisfying $0 < t < 2$, the series converges, and diverges otherwise. The width of this interval is $2$, thus giving a radius of convergence of $1$. If you wanted to go further into the details on the interval of convergence, you could also justify the non-inclusion of $t=0$ and $t=2$ fairly easily by plugging each into the original series, simplifying, and checking for convergence that way as well.
This would be starkly different if, say, we have $(3t-1)^2 < 1$ instead for this series, which would result in a radius of convergence of $1/3$. (I'll leave showing that as an exercise to the reader.) The key point here being to make sure your work is all justified and to see where it comes from. I could easily see a few number of ways you could just pick out $1$ as the radius of convergence from $(t-1)^2 < 1$ and, while having the right radius, you would be wrong if you applied it to similar problems.
In short, correct solution, just perhaps for not the right reasons, it's hard to say, and this thus should be an example of the importance of showing your work.
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There is detail missing here. When applying a function to an inequality, it must first be established that the function is monotonic on the interval. If it isn't, you must break it apart into the different intervals of monotonic behaviour. Within each monotonic sets you then need to identify whether the function is increasing or decreasing as in the case of decreasing the inequality sign is reversed. Here taking the positive square root on the interval, we have a function that is monotonic and increasing and so, it is allowable here.
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– DavidG
Jan 8 at 4:46
add a comment |
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There is detail missing here. When applying a function to an inequality, it must first be established that the function is monotonic on the interval. If it isn't, you must break it apart into the different intervals of monotonic behaviour. Within each monotonic sets you then need to identify whether the function is increasing or decreasing as in the case of decreasing the inequality sign is reversed. Here taking the positive square root on the interval, we have a function that is monotonic and increasing and so, it is allowable here.
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– DavidG
Jan 8 at 4:46
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There is detail missing here. When applying a function to an inequality, it must first be established that the function is monotonic on the interval. If it isn't, you must break it apart into the different intervals of monotonic behaviour. Within each monotonic sets you then need to identify whether the function is increasing or decreasing as in the case of decreasing the inequality sign is reversed. Here taking the positive square root on the interval, we have a function that is monotonic and increasing and so, it is allowable here.
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– DavidG
Jan 8 at 4:46
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There is detail missing here. When applying a function to an inequality, it must first be established that the function is monotonic on the interval. If it isn't, you must break it apart into the different intervals of monotonic behaviour. Within each monotonic sets you then need to identify whether the function is increasing or decreasing as in the case of decreasing the inequality sign is reversed. Here taking the positive square root on the interval, we have a function that is monotonic and increasing and so, it is allowable here.
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– DavidG
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Yes. But to be complete, not that $(t-1)^2<1$ implies $|t-1| < 1$ and then guarantees convergence $0<t<2.$ Convergence at the endpoints $t=0$ and $t=2$ will not occur for this particular series.
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– matt biesecker
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